Rob Tomlin
Lotus Exige S
JohnnyDaJackal said:
It's more of a situation where I will just try something else when I run out of my SSR's.
Overrated products
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It's more of a situation where I will just try something else when I run out of my SSR's.
Pretty much any wheel cleaner. I've never experienced anything that was spray on-hose off...even though many claim it. And as far as the gentle ones that say to agitate..I get the same results with car wash soap
I'll admit that I've been let down a little by many purchases..not because they were bad in any way..I just psych myself up too much
I'll admit that I've been let down a little by many purchases..not because they were bad in any way..I just psych myself up too much
It seems alot of the posts arent necessarily products that are overrated, but products that didnt live up to the posters personal expectations.
I think PoliSeal is overrated, its not a joy to use, Zero durability, and seems to weaken the durability of anything put over top of it (except OOS). It makes a terrible base for sealants IME.
I think PoliSeal is overrated, its not a joy to use, Zero durability, and seems to weaken the durability of anything put over top of it (except OOS). It makes a terrible base for sealants IME.
imported_topnotch
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I read through this post and love it. As for my overrated products I have to say are anything from Zaino even though I do use it as requested by some of my customers. A close 2nd to that I have to say that the Poorboys line was a let for me in the past also. Now I just stick with Jeffs, Menzerna and select Optimum products.
NSXTASY said:
How exactly are you using it?
Via PC, UDM or Cyclo, it is a piece of cake to apply and removes effortlessly. Works well with Opti-Seal (as you mentioned) and Acrylic Jett as well as carnaubas.
I guess it is like Meguiars DACP. I find it very easy to use but others have all kinds of problems with it. Good thing there are so many choices.
membim
Chadwick's Auto Detailing
SVR said:
What do you not like about Pinnacle's wash?
membim
Chadwick's Auto Detailing
I think Menzerna products are overrated. I liked FMJ for it's looks and ease of use but it spoiled after a year on my shelf. It now smells like the inside of a fake leg.
Most Menzerna users probably think I'm crazy.
Huge Clearkote fan...
Most Menzerna users probably think I'm crazy.
Huge Clearkote fan...
maesal
New member
membim said:
FMJ is not made by Menzerna AFAIK.
SVR
Dream Machines
Pinnacle wash at the time (2004) didn't seem PH neutral. It dried my paint out and took all the slickness away.
Very poor sudsing too
Clearkote's just about to be left behind as well.
It's only saving grace now is as an ingredient in one of my mixes.
Won't be using them on paint anymore.
Oh and FMJ is not a Menzerna product.
Very poor sudsing too
Clearkote's just about to be left behind as well.
It's only saving grace now is as an ingredient in one of my mixes.
Won't be using them on paint anymore.
Oh and FMJ is not a Menzerna product.
SuperBee364
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Add me to the list of "Zaino bashers". Zaino looks great, lasts a long time, but it doesn't protect for crap, and it doesn't easily release surface contaminants.
LSP protection, at it's most basic level, should at *least* protect against hard water spots. Zaino fails this test miserably. Hard water eats through Zaino and bonds to the clear coat overnight. Having failed this test miserably, it's not surprising to also find that tree sap, bug guts, bird bombs and road tar are like knives through Zaino's butter; right through the Zaino coat and stuck on the clear coat like glue. What good is an LSP that looks good and lasts a long time if it's not providing protection and doesn't release surface contaminants?
I used Zaino for four years, and I'm glad to be rid of the stuff.
LSP protection, at it's most basic level, should at *least* protect against hard water spots. Zaino fails this test miserably. Hard water eats through Zaino and bonds to the clear coat overnight. Having failed this test miserably, it's not surprising to also find that tree sap, bug guts, bird bombs and road tar are like knives through Zaino's butter; right through the Zaino coat and stuck on the clear coat like glue. What good is an LSP that looks good and lasts a long time if it's not providing protection and doesn't release surface contaminants?
I used Zaino for four years, and I'm glad to be rid of the stuff.
imported_artikxscout
New member
i've always had great luck with meg's #21, just bought myself a whole gallon actually.
maesal
New member
SuperBee364 said:
I have the same experience :sadwavey:
SVR
Dream Machines
Water spots aren't a problem with those sealers I've been using
I have never really had an interest in Zaino
A friend gets eight months out of it but I can get more with cheaper stuff and total water spot protection.
I have never really had an interest in Zaino
A friend gets eight months out of it but I can get more with cheaper stuff and total water spot protection.
maesal said:
+3
I was disappointed in the Z-AIO/Z-CS combo. It shines great, even when dirty, it beads great, but I didn't get much protection against bug etching and waterspots. :nixweiss I even removed the bugs daily using DP's Waterless Auto Wash. After my experience with Z-AIO/Z-CS and hearing others too, I am kind of doubtful I would want to try the Z2/Z5 sealants to see if they really would protect any better.
Bunky
Detailing Gnosis
whis9 said:
I cannot believe anything at TurtleWax could be considered overrated as a rule. It is cheap OTC stuff and everyone has written it off as junk. It may well be junk but you cannot get any worse reputation at least around autopia or other detailing web sites.
Rob Tomlin
Lotus Exige S
Bunky said:
:werd:
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I think most boutique brands are over rated. Mainly because people who spend their money on a product don’t want to think something cheaper could do/look as good.
Don’t get me wrong when properly prepared and applied almost any product line will give very good results. I’ll bet you could line up ten identical cars with ten different product lines and 100 people wouldn’t form a consensus as to which one looks the best. Especially, if no one knew what products where on what cars ahead of time. It’s all in the “opinion� of the person looking.
I use Meguiars OTC products on this truck and I think it looks pretty darn good. :nana: :laugh:
Don’t get me wrong when properly prepared and applied almost any product line will give very good results. I’ll bet you could line up ten identical cars with ten different product lines and 100 people wouldn’t form a consensus as to which one looks the best. Especially, if no one knew what products where on what cars ahead of time. It’s all in the “opinion� of the person looking.
I use Meguiars OTC products on this truck and I think it looks pretty darn good. :nana: :laugh:
SVR
Dream Machines
In the eye of the beholder hey
Well a select few boutique brands are overrated but many are way better than the industrial trash that dealerships commonly use.
They still think that you can't machine polish plastic and that dressings are the only way to make trims look their best.
There are subtle differences between polish brands. (clarity, brightness/darkness of paint, depth etc)
Well a select few boutique brands are overrated but many are way better than the industrial trash that dealerships commonly use.
They still think that you can't machine polish plastic and that dressings are the only way to make trims look their best.
There are subtle differences between polish brands. (clarity, brightness/darkness of paint, depth etc)
Paulie Walnuts
New member
SuperBee364 said:
I find it very strange if you will that so many of us have complete 180 experiences from what others have had. I have never had water eat through Z and when washing the surface contaminants dejour come right off. One of the reasons I like Z so much is that its maintenance free for me.