WW/RW Showdown - N-914 vs Feynlab Pure Rinseless

I finally got around to washing my car with PR and was surprised to see how much color was pulled out of my clean towels into the leftover solution in the bucket. The light blue dilution took on the color of the green and orange towels I used so it`s now a light brownish orange. That aside, it did clean the car and wheel faces very very well. N914 will still be what I grab to for quick little things but for a full wash PR will be my go to.

Does that with all color towels for me including light and white ones.

Forum consensus is it’s dirt from clean towels. Alot say there gonna use as pre soak. Nextci’m gonna try soaking towels i use with LSP’s


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Does that with all color towels for me including light and white ones.

Forum consensus is it’s dirt from clean towels. Alot say there gonna use as pre soak. Nextci’m gonna try soaking towels i use with LSP’s


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I picked a TRC Pluffle to try as a new rinseless wash towel. Maybe I`ll try soaking it for it`s first wash in PR to see if there is the dirty water color after a day or two. I did do a test on towels before and I do think that PR is a great towel pre-rinse. My rinseless wash towels are green and my water has taken a light brown tint to it after soaking them.
I got two more bottles last week to get ready for the winter. It`s replaced ONR for me. I like how you can play with the dilution for the wash that is needed. I`m looking forward (not really) to using PR in a sprayer this winter before using the coin wash.
 
I picked a TRC Pluffle to try as a new rinseless wash towel. Maybe I`ll try soaking it for it`s first wash in PR to see if there is the dirty water color after a day or two. I did do a test on towels before and I do think that PR is a great towel pre-rinse. My rinseless wash towels are green and my water has taken a light brown tint to it after soaking them.
I got two more bottles last week to get ready for the winter. It`s replaced ONR for me. I like how you can play with the dilution for the wash that is needed. I`m looking forward (not really) to using PR in a sprayer this winter before using the coin wash.

Love the pluffle for Qd’s and waterless. EE 500 edges it out in rinseless for me.


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I`ve been using MicrofiberTech 600 for years. I like how they hold their shape, if that makes sense. They`re pretty easy to keep folding over and over to get multiple wipes with one towel. I think the Pluffle may turn into my new keep inside the truck towel for dust, spills, etc.

Back on topic, soaking the brand new towel for 24 hours resulted in the same color PR as went in. No tint or color transfer. I think that the tint that many of us have experienced with soaking towels in PR is dirt being pulled out of the towels.
 
Just tried this today and it works remarkably well for this purpose.

Few well respected pros in the UK use a MF saturated in onr to remove the actual polish from the surface, supposedly excellent on soft sensitive paint likely to enduce marring when removing spent polish and clear with short pile cloth. I tested the same principle today, only using PR in place of ONR, with a very oily compound broken down so easily then the residual mopped up very easily with a dry MF. Surface felt and even under lights looked like it`d just been panel wiped.

I did do a final wipe with my normal panel wipe before coating but genuinely the surface felt or looked no cleaner. I normally panel wipe immediately after polishing a larger section and at the end, instead this method (as well feeling safer for sensitive paints) produced similar results at far lower cost.

I don`t know why I was surprised by the light work it made of polishing oils, having seen how it stripped igl from my wife`s roof a few weeks back.

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I can only imagine how strong fenylabs actual panel wipe is. So strong seeps through the car body and cleans your dash
 
This place makes me buy things.

So I got in my order of Feynlab Pure Rinseless and anxiously put it to use last night. Mixed up 1.5 oz of solution with ~3 gallons of water, and had a separate bucket with just water and a few mitts. To pre-treat I filled a spray bottle with the solution from the bucket and sprayed down a few panels at a time. Then proceeded with the two-bucket rinseless wash.

This stuff feels really slick on the hands. So slick in fact, that I think it was actually eating my skin. Kind of like that feeling when you get an alkaline apc on your hands. I don`t have any litmus strips to test the pH but I`m certain it has a slight alkaline nature to it. I will absolutely be wearing gloves next time, as it dried my hands out pretty heavily.

Anyways, the slickness wasn`t just in my hands but on the car as well. Very, very lubricated, and more so than my usual go-to rinseless wash, N914. The cleaning ability was very impressive. In a recent post on Feynlab`s Instagram, they posted about this product and said "No more picking at pollen marks with your fingers". I found that to be absolutely true, and the only other wash product I`ve used that works that well on gunk like that is CarPro Reset.

One thing I found really impressive about this product was its surface "wetting" capabilities. It really has impressive amounts of cling and fights back against the ceramic coated (CQuartz) surface below it that`s trying to bead it away. I believe this property is what allows it to emulsify and encapsulate the contamination so well. See the image below, this is just after wiping the surface with my wash mitt.

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I also used the solution I had in my spray bottle to give my wheels a waterless wash with an old rag dipped in the bucket solution. This, too, was really really impressive. It`s harder to get into the barrel washing this way but I got the spokes and rim really nice and clean with little effort.

Before/After

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So this stuff is definitely a keeper for me. I can see it being used as a prep wash before some major projects and definitely as a good ceramic maintenance product when a deeper clean is needed. I can see using it as a waterless solution to wipe away polish residue too. I would hesitate to use it outside in the sun and let it get too dry on the surface, though. I tend to use N914 as a post-wash water spot prevention and will let that bake away in the sun no problem. The Feynlab left some noticeable streaks just letting dry in my garage at night. It seems to be a pretty heavy product so maybe my dilution wasn`t quite accurate, but overall it`s an impressively powerful product. It`s pretty cool having the power of something like Reset in a rinseless option.
 
This place makes me buy things.

So I got in my order of Feynlab Pure Rinseless and anxiously put it to use last night. Mixed up 1.5 oz of solution with ~3 gallons of water, and had a separate bucket with just water and a few mitts. To pre-treat I filled a spray bottle with the solution from the bucket and sprayed down a few panels at a time. Then proceeded with the two-bucket rinseless wash.

This stuff feels really slick on the hands. So slick in fact, that I think it was actually eating my skin. Kind of like that feeling when you get an alkaline apc on your hands. I don`t have any litmus strips to test the pH but I`m certain it has a slight alkaline nature to it. I will absolutely be wearing gloves next time, as it dried my hands out pretty heavily.

Anyways, the slickness wasn`t just in my hands but on the car as well. Very, very lubricated, and more so than my usual go-to rinseless wash, N914. The cleaning ability was very impressive. In a recent post on Feynlab`s Instagram, they posted about this product and said "No more picking at pollen marks with your fingers". I found that to be absolutely true, and the only other wash product I`ve used that works that well on gunk like that is CarPro Reset.

One thing I found really impressive about this product was its surface "wetting" capabilities. It really has impressive amounts of cling and fights back against the ceramic coated (CQuartz) surface below it that`s trying to bead it away. I believe this property is what allows it to emulsify and encapsulate the contamination so well. See the image below, this is just after wiping the surface with my wash mitt.

BWoXwjMh.jpg


I also used the solution I had in my spray bottle to give my wheels a waterless wash with an old rag dipped in the bucket solution. This, too, was really really impressive. It`s harder to get into the barrel washing this way but I got the spokes and rim really nice and clean with little effort.

Before/After

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igQw2kXl.jpg


So this stuff is definitely a keeper for me. I can see it being used as a prep wash before some major projects and definitely as a good ceramic maintenance product when a deeper clean is needed. I can see using it as a waterless solution to wipe away polish residue too. I would hesitate to use it outside in the sun and let it get too dry on the surface, though. I tend to use N914 as a post-wash water spot prevention and will let that bake away in the sun no problem. The Feynlab left some noticeable streaks just letting dry in my garage at night. It seems to be a pretty heavy product so maybe my dilution wasn`t quite accurate, but overall it`s an impressively powerful product. It`s pretty cool having the power of something like Reset in a rinseless option.

I`ve found it to be absolutely fine in the sun - a very light wipe removes any footprint left behind.

I tested the diluted pH and it was neutral (somehow).

Wizardry in a bottle.
 
I`m late in discovering this stuff but I`m intrigued. Being a minimalist, I like having the least amount of products I need to do the job. If i`m reading this thread correctly, I could use PR or PW for decon, routine washes, interior and wheels? I currently use ONR/Power Clean for pre-wash/interior etc. I like the cleaning power though of PR/PW so I`m tempted to try this once I`m out of ONR/OPC.
 
I`m late in discovering this stuff but I`m intrigued. Being a minimalist, I like having the least amount of products I need to do the job. If i`m reading this thread correctly, I could use PR or PW for decon, routine washes, interior and wheels? I currently use ONR/Power Clean for pre-wash/interior etc. I like the cleaning power though of PR/PW so I`m tempted to try this once I`m out of ONR/OPC.

Not heard as much about Pure Wash. seems by description it is a Reset type soap. I know [mention]The Guz [/mention] has used it.


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Pure wash can be turned up or turned down by dilution as well. Foams on the lower side like Reset. Great wheel cleaner at higher than the recommended 1:400, probably 1:300. The shampoo feels very slick. It`s a really good cleaner like Pure Rinseless is.
 
Pure Wash is pretty good. For those that like high suds will not like it. Does a pretty good job overall. I would still choose Reset over it. Reset seems to rinse off cleaner faster than Pure Wash.

Pure Risneless is good. I don`t find it that much stronger than N914 or Meguiar`s D114. Pure Rinseless seems to have an achillies heel with being removed off glass.
 
Semi Thread BRUMP. I just picked up some 914. Just mainly to use -maybe- as WW for door/trunk jambs. Eh, maybe me perception may change...

The last time I had a WW/RW product was maybe 15 years ago or so, with ONE. I think I might have used it 3X - it wasn`t for me . Ended up in the landfill.
 
Semi Thread BRUMP. I just picked up some 914. Just mainly to use -maybe- as WW for door/trunk jambs. Eh, maybe me perception may change...

The last time I had a WW/RW product was maybe 15 years ago or so, with ONE. I think I might have used it 3X - it wasn`t for me . Ended up in the landfill.

It’s good stuff. I have no problem using it for a maintenance wash


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I`m a DINOsaur. I need water and lots of it......

I know many are fine with the whole rinse less approach. I just can`t wrap my head over the concept of it.....versus flooding water....
Baby steps I suppose. 15 years`ish since I tried ONR. Did not like it. Getting back on the bicycle as they say
 
I`m a DINOsaur. I need water and lots of it......

I know many are fine with the whole rinse less approach. I just can`t wrap my head over the concept of it.....versus flooding water....
Baby steps I suppose. 15 years`ish since I tried ONR. Did not like it. Getting back on the bicycle as they say

For me the secret is one towel per panel and the towel is sopping wet. Add a little waterless wash spray per panel and I feel there is plenty of lubrication and plenty of water to sweep contaminants away.
 
And for now, this is mainly trunk/door jambs.
LOL, I don`t see myself using this on exterior paint quite yet

However, with this new -self healing- PPF full wrap vehicle, I might try it on a very very Very lightly soiled car, like taken for a spin after a wash sorta dirt level.
 
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