The power of NXT over 12 layers of Zaino on black C5

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Hmmm...



Isn't this photo stacked against Zaino?

In the picture, the sun's angle happens to flare

on the Zaino's side and thus accentuates

all the swirls.

Based on my experience, my hood exactly looks like

the photo (not that much swirls, though) where there

are only swirls seen around sun's flare and nowhere else.

This is regardless of what sealant/wax I use (Z, NTX, UUP,

EX-P, S100, Souveran, etc).



Look at the top left panel of the hood (supposed to

be Zaino's side). I did not see any swirls there either.



My $0.02...
 
Well, if there were 12 layers of Zaino and "According to most Zaino users, the cleaners in NXT will have removed any existing Zaino"....then wouldn't that mean that a lot of the swirls were in the Zaino and NXT just removed those layers to reveal the surface of the clearcoat which had less swirls?
 
YouGottaBeLeaf said:
Well, if there were 12 layers of Zaino and "According to most Zaino users, the cleaners in NXT will have removed any existing Zaino"....then wouldn't that mean that a lot of the swirls were in the Zaino and NXT just removed those layers to reveal the surface of the clearcoat which had less swirls?
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No.
 
Can swirls really just be in the coats of Zaino? With Klasse I'm convinced this is not the case, I'm always having to polish the paint itself to eliminate micromarring, adding more SG doesn't help :(



Could NXT just have fillers that is covering the defects?
 
Bill D said:
Could NXT just have fillers that is covering the defects?
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wiNnar!!!



Any product can get some micro marring in it. The surface problems on that Vette are way beyond micro marring, that clear is trashed and needed extensive prep work.
 
Those swirls are in the clearcoat, not in the Zaino. NXT does contain fillers to mask swirls. The effect can go away in a few washes. At least that is what I noticed on my car. I don't think that was ever in dispute. Z-5 is also a "filler" product for a swirl remover.
 
Yes, NXT is covering. Even with a good polish, it would take some really good work by hand to get those swirls out.
 
Well I've used both on black and as far as NXT goes I've just never seen it hide what few swirls I have.I hear it here all the time and I just don't see any of this hiding and filling going on with NXT.What NXT does do is darken the paint and the Zaino just makes any defects show up like crazy.I think that pic. has to do more with the angle of the sun and the darkening effect of NXT than removing (hiding) the swirls.
 
SK2003TypeS said:
Agreed. It looks like he read the webpage, did a dawn wash (possible clay) and just Z'd it.



Not to mention, that instance is comparing the owner of the car to Mike as well. I'm sure Mike's techniques and knowledge can make a lot of cars look amazing with whatever product you put in his hand.
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I notice a lot of people don't seem to like to read anymore, I'm not saying this is true of you SK2003TypeS, but as I read through this thread, I see comments being made that imply that the person did not read what I wrote in that thread.



So to highlight, I did none of the work. Members of CorvetteForum applied and removed the product, and then they inspected the results.



I didn't apply the NXT Tech Wax for exactly for the reason you have posted, I knew if I applied the one coat of Tech Wax, that someone would say the reason the results were so dramatic was because it was me applying the products.



Not this time.



Mike
 
BradE said:
Guess which lasts longer. Amazing what some oil and filler can do, isn't it?
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Well. let's do the math. 12 layers of Zaino would equal 1 waxing per month of NXT. Will those 12 layers last a full year? ;)



My post was meant in gest anyway. Didn't mean to get your feathers ruffled over your choice of Zaino. The bottom line, it demonstrates that an inexpensive product like NXT will make a car look better than a poorly prepped car that uses 12 layers of Zaino. There is a niche for many products, and although I'm sure Zaino is an excellent product, it's not for everyone and some pretty nice looking results can be had fairly cheap.:D
 
I have used both products on my black truck, and really can't tell enough of a difference to justify Zaino's price, esp when I can touch up the NXT with the spray enhancer. That said, looks to me like each did half the hood, which to me means each prepped half the hood, and the Zaino had no prep.
 
Yes, it really does look like the car had no prep, I think that kinda skews the results of what the LSP is going to look like. It's also important to keep in mind that Zaino and NXT, I assume due to their ingredients, will produce different looks. Whether one look is "better" than the other is purely personal preference. If the other attributes of the products are important to you as well then comparing and contrasting them between the two products will come into play as well when deciding which to use.
 
I have to laugh....Who, and why in the world would someone apply 12 coats of anything ??? If a product is that good, why is 12 coats necessary ?
 
What really gets me is that all of you keep talking about the cost of Zaino. One bottle of Z2 is $13 and will last you several years. I am by no means a Zainoholic and rarely use it, but give it a rest guys. Most of you guys haven't even used it.
 
a.k.a. Patrick said:
I have to laugh....Who, and why in the world would someone apply 12 coats of anything ??? If a product is that good, why is 12 coats necessary ?
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Because it satisfies the jones to do something to the car. I have a couple of layers of FMJ on mine right now that look good, are still slick, and are still beading just fine. There's absolutely no reason to apply anything else to the car, yet every time I wash, I think about another layer of FMJ, or stripping it and trying Klasse, or topping it with #16, etc.



For those of us that have that particular monkey on our backs, products that claim to be layerable just feed the addiction. If I knew that another application of a product would remove the previous application, I'd be less likely to give in to the temptation to throw on another coat. Now, I can rationalize it: "I'm adding another layer of protection! Yeah, that's the ticket!" And, while I may indeed be adding to what's on the car, and improving the looks and longevity of the LSP, it really comes down to the desire to do more (usually, more than necessary).



Tort

"Hi! My name's Scott, and I'm a wax-oholic."
 
Yeah putting 12 layers of Zaino on in a year is nothing.I bet I put more than that on when I was into Zaino.It was thought by me that more equals better protection and it was easy to put on and take off compared to some of the OTC waxes that I had used previously.I know now that after a point I was just wasting my time and product but it just felt good putting another layer on.:nixweiss
 
Exactly... Some of us on Autopia are just clean freaks, we hate a dirty car. Just washing a car isn't always enough for me, I like it to look like my very first detail(showroom new) all the time. Of course I don't clay and polish all the time etc. (although I have clayed 3 times this summer ans we're still in July). So if a product just happens to be layerable, what's the harm? I'm not doimg it just to say I have 80 coats on my car, I just want my car in 10 years from now to look like it does now and then Barret Jackson here I come...:xyxthumbs
 
ZaneO said:
What really gets me is that all of you keep talking about the cost of Zaino. One bottle of Z2 is $13 and will last you several years. I am by no means a Zainoholic and rarely use it, but give it a rest guys. Most of you guys haven't even used it.
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Right on.
 
a.k.a. Patrick said:
I have to laugh....Who, and why in the world would someone apply 12 coats of anything ??? If a product is that good, why is 12 coats necessary ?
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look for my post in the detailing forum, I'm on this Z board and there are guys w/ 15 coats who brag about it's longetivity. Who needs longetivity when you apply a new coat ever few weeks :D
 
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