snowskate said:
At the time I started that poll I was not aware of the "the whole truth". In fact, I have been face-to-face lied to by a company who claims to be a mfg when in fact they are a nothing but a seller for the mfg.
So what! People are going to lie to get money, feed their ego, bla, bla, bla.
Here's the fact. Almost no one in this business makes their own chemicals. That's because the chemical makers can't market and the marketers can't make chemicals.
Here's the next fact that all of you who are going after the "re-bottlers" as if they owe you something don't realize. It's a very simple fact, so please pay attention.
Just because xyz chemical company makes a product for abc marketer company, that does not mean it's the same product that's going into bottles for another brand.
Now, I realize that some of you who are being antagonistic towards brands who you think are nothing more than "re-bottlers", "re-labelers", etc. may be thinking "oh, come on... how much can you change a product to make it worth twice as much?" The answer is, a lot. Smart branders have unique formulas and lock up that formula in an exclusive production contract.
I'm willing to stand up here today and take a shellacking for my original post on this subject because I was wrong. Aside from being lied to by a company who does not manufacture who claims to, I'm completely okay with my new understanding of how brand marketers work with with chemical manufacturers to produce a unique product.
I can say this with authority because I have been in the room with a manufacturer when one of the brand owners mentioned in this bash-a-thon was in the room beating a chemist about the head and shoulders to make a change that was going to cost money.
For the sake of a few folks up on their soapbox, let me say this in clear terms. I was wrong, and I apologize to anyone I may have offended with my original post way back when. Moving forward, If you don't have first hand knowledge of what is actually inside a bottle (who made it and the exact formula), then you are speculating. If you speculate loudly enough that you damage a company's reputation or harm their business, you and you alone have the opportunity to be held responsible for your actions. If you don't understand what I mean, let me explain. A company has a right to earn money. Anything you do to harm their reputation (preventing them from earning an income) makes you responsible for that lost income. This is the law in most countries and courts across the land.
This community does not condone the course this thread has taken or the comments by those who feel it is their right to know the private relationships between a brander and their suppliers. If you like a brand, please buy from them. If you don't, please buy from someone else. In all cases regarding this thread, "BASHING" is against the rules of community conduct and will be enforced. Please keep the conversation civil.
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