:spit: Nice assumption there guy, it couldn't be a formula thing or something else, just blame the user. Pink is far from being the easiest product I've worked with, it's nowhere near as easy as Natty's or p21s, I don't care what the fk1 guys say about that! Pink is not a wipe on and then off product like the previous waxes I've mentioned, you have to let it set up. I've tried many different setup times from immediately to 30 minutes and found that waiting about 10 minutes is the easiest, but it is far from easy. Another thing is the first time you open a can of Pink it's shocking! Compared to the great smell of Natty's or the pleasant smell of GPEC, Pink smells aweful. Having said that I like the finish of pink and I do plan on using up the can, but I wont be reordering anytime soon. Not when there easier products and better smelling ones out there. That's my opinion.:nixweiss I am in the SF area and I'm going to pop by that Geary shop and give this stuff a try. I haven't found the perfect 15 dollar wax but GPEC is pretty close, I'd love to find something better for the older cars I work with. Thanks for the soft99 tip, looks cool.