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I just started using FK 425 and I love the end result the product offers. I do however believe it has turned my car into a pollen magnet. I have read about the anti-static claims but am experiencing the opposite.



The car is black and I park it in an area where there there are no tress within 75-100 feet. (I understand there will be pollen regardless) The car next to mine everyday must be owned by an autopian also, it is black and flawless. I laughed when I got off of the train last night to see my car looked like it was snowed on and his/hers had minimal pollen on the surface.



Does anyone else see MORE dust and debris after using 425?
 
Is it possible that in the process of QD'ing you are rubbing the car down with a microfiber towel and imparting a static charge to the car? I guess that would be the purpose of the anti-static ingredient in the 425...to prevent that from happening. I am just recalling a post by Jimmy Buffit where he said they attach the car to a water pipe with a jumper cable to dissipate the static charge after polishing/buffing.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Is it possible that in the process of QD'ing you are rubbing the car down with a microfiber towel and imparting a static charge to the car? I guess that would be the purpose of the anti-static ingredient in the 425...to prevent that from happening. I am just recalling a post by Jimmy Buffit where he said they attach the car to a water pipe with a jumper cable to dissipate the static charge after polishing/buffing.
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I'll bet it is. Do you have any idea how to eliminate or reduce static chage on micrifiber towels when they are in the dryer?
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Is it possible that in the process of QD'ing you are rubbing the car down with a microfiber towel and imparting a static charge to the car? I guess that would be the purpose of the anti-static ingredient in the 425...to prevent that from happening. I am just recalling a post by Jimmy Buffit where he said they attach the car to a water pipe with a jumper cable to dissipate the static charge after polishing/buffing.
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Yup, the anti-static ingredient is supposed to prevent charge from building up on the car when buffing. So it sounds like it's not doing it's job all that well...
 
jsatek said:
I just started using FK 425 and I love the end result the product offers. I do however believe it has turned my car into a pollen magnet. I have read about the anti-static claims but am experiencing the opposite.



The car is black and I park it in an area where there there are no tress within 75-100 feet. (I understand there will be pollen regardless) The car next to mine everyday must be owned by an autopian also, it is black and flawless. I laughed when I got off of the train last night to see my car looked like it was snowed on and his/hers had minimal pollen on the surface.



Does anyone else see MORE dust and debris after using 425?
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Ive had the same problem with my car as well as my girlfriends'. We didnt have a problem with pollen when we just had Poorboys EX on them, but when I washed and applied 425 to dry it...Ive had pollen problems ever since. Im waiting till I get my Prime Carnuba and Prime Strong this week before I do anything.
 
jsatek said:
I'll bet it is. Do you have any idea how to eliminate or reduce static chage on micrifiber towels when they are in the dryer?
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It's not residual static charge in the towels, it's charge that you build up while rubbing the car, just like when you rub a balloon on your shirt to get it to stick to you or make your hair stand up.
 
The jumper cable to the car method sounds like it would work in theory, but I think you would need a bare piece of metal on the car to connect to the pipe. Suspension parts, like the exhaust, are isolated from the car by rubber. How does he do this?
 
I guess open the hood and find a piece of metal just like you would do if you were jump starting--the chassis of the car should all be grounded to the electrical system. I think the problem with the car holding the charge is the same as if a power line falls on it--it's insulated from earth (ground) by the rubber tires.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
I guess open the hood and find a piece of metal just like you would do if you were jump starting--the chassis of the car should all be grounded to the electrical system. I think the problem with the car holding the charge is the same as if a power line falls on it--it's insulated from earth (ground) by the rubber tires.
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This may sound good in theory, but why is he just now experiencing it with FK425, which supposedly has an ingredient to at least minimize if not eliminate the static charge. I'd be curious what the previous process and product that he used. I was entertaining the idea of getting some FK425 to replace my Quickshine, but this gives me reservations now. Last thing I want to do is have to worry about grounding my car.
 
I'm not jumping into the "is 425 anti-static or not" argument, I was just hypothesizing what was going on and how to correct it. I haven't noticed 425 to be any better or worse than any other QD as far as static, but it sure is slick.
 
jsatek said:
I just started using FK 425 and I love the end result the product offers. I do however believe it has turned my car into a pollen magnet. I have read about the anti-static claims but am experiencing the opposite.



The car is black and I park it in an area where there there are no tress within 75-100 feet. (I understand there will be pollen regardless) The car next to mine everyday must be owned by an autopian also, it is black and flawless. I laughed when I got off of the train last night to see my car looked like it was snowed on and his/hers had minimal pollen on the surface.



Does anyone else see MORE dust and debris after using 425?
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Yes do when compared to using Megs and PBs QDs.



I really dont think that 425 is all it is hyped up to be. I get the same if not better results from Spray and Gloss or Final Detailer
 
interesting,

well based on my experience I would sooner run my car through an automatic tunnel car wash than give up my 425.

My first experience with 425 sold me, I just layed down some S100 after washing and parked the car to go shopping. Came out of the supermarket an hour later and the car was full of dust and particles. Wiped down the car with spring water/waffle weave and added 425. Left it parked for another hour came back no dust AT ALL.

I do get pollen, 425 won't fight gravity, no product will. But I have noticed that once the car gets moving pollen and dust slide off. Same goes for windy days, paint stays cleaner longer.

I mean the surface is so slick only makes sense
 
94BlkStang said:
This may sound good in theory, but why is he just now experiencing it with FK425, which supposedly has an ingredient to at least minimize if not eliminate the static charge. I'd be curious what the previous process and product that he used. I was entertaining the idea of getting some FK425 to replace my Quickshine, but this gives me reservations now. Last thing I want to do is have to worry about grounding my car.
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Previous process was a wash with SS&S followed by Natty's Blue 2x by hand then 425 for LSP.



I am going to try the jumper cable thing, what is there to lose. I think the finish is so greasy from over processing, anything will stick to it.



I think some of the microfibers had a static charge in them. How do you prevent static on your microfober towels when you dry them in a dryer? Shouldnt use dryer sheets with microfibers.
 
Remove your MF's from drier just prior to being completely dry. I use lowest temp above Air Fluff.



Rotate your MF stock so that the recently washed/dried towels are always at the end of the line. This latent period allows any residual static charge to natural dissipate.
 
Goodness I was starting to think I was the only one who didn't see what all the 425 hype was about. Without even getting into the anti-static debate, I just can't get the stuff to wipe clean for me. No matter how much or how little I use, I can always see a residue on the surface after using it, whether it's over a carnauba or a sealant. I'm using plush MF towels to buff. It's a shame because it sure does leave the finish nice and shiney, but I actually much prefer UGE for looks and slickness, and it's super easy to use.



I get the same residue issues with S&G. The only ones I use that are consistently user friendly are Quik Shine, Adam's Detail Spray, Z6 (over sealants), Griot's Speed Shine, UGE, One Grand Show Off, Sonus Acrylic Spritz, and Wolfgang Detail Spritz (discontinued). Other than that, QD's can be kind of a crap shoot.
 
First, air dry your MF towels rather than use the dryer. Although I don't know about how pollen is attracted to 425, I do know flies love it. I used it once and the flies, hundreds of them, swarmed all over the truck.
 
FYI......I don't beleive tires are going to insulate you from a fallen power line! Don't try that at home. My truck was hit by lightning and fried my electrical system!





Setec Astronomy said:
I guess open the hood and find a piece of metal just like you would do if you were jump starting--the chassis of the car should all be grounded to the electrical system. I think the problem with the car holding the charge is the same as if a power line falls on it--it's insulated from earth (ground) by the rubber tires.
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MDRX8 said:
FYI......I don't beleive tires are going to insulate you from a fallen power line! Don't try that at home. My truck was hit by lightning and fried my electrical system!
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Tires don't insulate your car from a fallen electrical line, they insulate your car from the ground. If a live fallen electrical line is in electrical contact with your car, your car's chassis will have electrical potential which is isolated from the ground...until you put one foot out and become the ground path. Don't try that!



PS Lightning is a lot different than even a high voltage electrical line. At millions of volts, it will flashover many high-resistance paths that lower voltages won't.
 
I am going to wash the car tomorrow afternoon and NOT reapply 425 to see the results. I am also on my way to get some Woolite to clean all of my microfibers to hopefully eliminate the static charge.



The car will be parked in the same spot Thursday. If there is less pollen on the finish, I have my answer.
 
jsatek said:
I am going to wash the car tomorrow afternoon and NOT reapply 425 to see the results. I am also on my way to get some Woolite to clean all of my microfibers to hopefully eliminate the static charge.



The car will be parked in the same spot Thursday. If there is less pollen on the finish, I have my answer.
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after you wash don't dry it, drive it around real fast and then park it.

In other words don't use your towels
 
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