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Ronkh said:
People are people. Either good or bad.
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The problem is that everyone's definition of good or bad is not the same. In many cases, religion dogma is usually intolerance of non-believers. This is abused by the leaders to achieve often other goals.
 
Bunky said:
The problem is that everyone's definition of good or bad is not the same. In many cases, religion dogma is usually intolerance of non-believers. This is abused by the leaders to achieve often other goals.
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I was sorta talking in my own eye, either good or not good. I tend to judge people how they treat me/others
 
Bunky said:
The usual challenge of intolerance for intolerance. The ChickFil-A CEO had made negative comments about same gender marriage.
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Not for nothing, Mr. Cathy was asked his opinion about the subject and he gave his opinion. What HE DID NOT SAY... we will not serve people or hire people of a certain orientation, we believe they should be thrown in jail, we believe they should be stoned.... He never said those things as some would like for folks to believe. Even folks who are in same gender relationships came to his defense defending his Freedom of Speech. They also pointed out his comments were not hateful. Sadly very little air play for those who defended him.
Go to Iran and countries under Sharia Law and see what "their laws" say, it is Illegal and people will be put to death. When the President of Iran was asked about people who are homes equals in his country, well go look it up for yourself. Norah O'Donnell and Charlie Rose interviewed him.
Russia just passed Anti-xxxxsexual Laws. Are we perfect? No, none of us are but we are also a nation far more tolerant than many others.
The Constitution does not guarantee you not to be offended. I'm offended everyday but that is part of being Free.
 
Bunky said:
The problem is that everyone's definition of good or bad is not the same....* Very true
In many cases, religion dogma is usually intolerance of non-believers...*Religion is man-made, our Personal relationship with Christ is far more important....
This is abused by the leaders to achieve often other goals.... * Sadly, Yes. Again see my answer above...
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See my response with asterisk next to them. Hopefully I did it right.
 
fdresq4 said:
Not for nothing, Mr. Cathy was asked his opinion about the subject and he gave his opinion. What he did not say... we will not serve people or hire people of a certain orientation, we believe they should be thrown in jail, we believe they should be stoned.... He never said those things as some would like for folks to believe. Even folks who are in same gender relationships came to his defense defending his Freedom of Speech. They also pointed out his comments were not hateful. Sadly very little air play for those who defended him.
Go to Iran and countries under Sharia Law and see what "their laws" say, it is Illegal and people will be put to death. When the President of Iran was asked about people who are homes equals in his country, well go look it up for yourself. Norah O'Donnell and Charlie Rose interviewed him.
Russia just passed Anti-xxxxsexual Laws. Are we perfect? No, none of us are but we are also a nation far more tolerant than many others.
The Constitution does not guarantee you not to be offended. I'm offended everyday but that is part of being Free.
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The msm didn't want people to hear that part. Just that he believed that marriage was between a man and woman.

Mebbe it's because they are not open 7 days a week....... Ummmm, yeah that's it
 
Ronkh said:
The msm didn't want people to hear that part. Just that he believed that marriage was between a man and woman.

Mebbe it's because they are not open 7 days a week....... Ummmm, yeah that's it
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Add to my Elections have consequences that ****CONTEXT MATTERS**** Stories are now narratives for an agenda. It's funny that folks who accuse others of being intolerant never see themselves that way.
 
Bottom line is there's no way to really stop it let alone a politically correct way, so the world is just going to keep putting out small fires until the you know what really hits the fan
 
fdresq4 said:
The Constitution does not guarantee you not to be offended. I'm offended everyday but that is part of being Free.
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Are you saying that it is wrong to take actions (boycott, protest, spread misinformation) for something that you may strongly disagree? You see it every day. For many, the end justifies the means. This is what politics is often about.
 
Bunky said:
Are you saying that it is wrong to take actions (boycott, protest, spread misinformation) for something that you may strongly disagree? You see it every day. For many, the end justifies the means. This is what politics is often about.
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yeah, I guess there is no integrity anymore..........
 
Bunky said:
The problem is that everyone's definition of good or bad is not the same. In many cases, religion dogma is usually intolerance of non-believers. This is abused by the leaders to achieve often other goals.
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Actually I believe what has happened, and continue to happen, is there are no more "right and wrong absolutes". As I wrote previously Truth is no longer Absolute but rather in today's pluralistic world view everyone can have a slice of Truth. This though cannot be.

Murder is wrong. It matters not where one goes, to even the farthest reaches of the universe, murder is absolutely wrong. Many today though hold to a worldview where murder is wrong, as long as you hold the same worldview.

These types hold to a relativistic worldview. What's true for you may not be what's true for me. This though is contradictory and therefore cannot stand on it's own principle. If relativism is what everyone should believe and hold to then it becomes "Absolutely true" for everyone, thus no longer a relativistic world view. In addition, if one claims that what's true for them may not be true for me then I could argue that they are wrong and I am right and by their own worldview they must agree with me. If they disagree with that then they have violated their own world view principles.

So yes you are correct in that many people will see good and bad with a relative slant. There is no such thing as an all inclusive "Truth". Truth by its very nature is "exclusive". Nothing is really all inclusive, for example, Buddhist and Hindu followers may claim they are truly all inclusive yet this is only so if you believe and hold to the same tenets as they. How can one be an atheist and also claim to follow Hinduism which claims to have over a million gods? Nor can one be an atheist and claim to believe in God.

So everyone is "intolerant" of others in some form or fashion, not just religion based but fashion based, class based, politically based and so on. I can disagree with someone and/or not agree with their lifestyle yet I tolerate that or them without having to be accepting of it.

I do not agree with special prayer time for Muslims within a state managed facility for do we not have that little thing called "separation of church and state"?? How is it they can have the funds allocated to build them a special little area for their prayers and foot baths yet a Christian cannot have an area constructed depicting a nativity scene? So I tolerate Muslims but draw the line at accepting their demands for their beliefs.

"Everyone is entitled to their own views (as long as they agree with mine)!" That's the belief of the so called "tolerant liberals". Let's see, there are over 50 bakeries in one city but a xxx couple picks the one Christian run bakery to go in and ask for a wedding cake for their xxx wedding. They cry out "Discrimination" when refused and sue them. The whole time their argument is, "We just want to be accepted as normal people with normal rights!" Not grasping that they ARE being treated as NORMAL people. Normal people get said NO to a lot for various reasons. You cannot be xxx and want both equal treatment then also special treatment.

So what then is truly "all inclusive"? Death.

Ha, I can't type "G-a-y" ?? It bleeps it...funny
 
Anthony O. said:
I do not agree with special prayer time for Muslims within a state managed facility for do we not have that little thing called "separation of church and state"?? How is it they can have the funds allocated to build them a special little area for their prayers and foot baths yet a Christian cannot have an area constructed depicting a nativity scene? So I tolerate Muslims but draw the line at accepting their demands for their beliefs.
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Duke is a private university so they can do what they want and has always been quite liberalfor equal access to religions plus Duke has a Methodist seminary program. Chick-fil-A was out in part due to renovations on campus and more than one national chain was booted.
 
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