What happened to the old Autopia?

ThatGuySkye

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Well its been probably 3 years now since i've really been on this forum, so long I forgot my old screen name. Anyway now that i'm back on here and tryin to get back into detailing, I find it kinda disappointing. Maybe its been so long I forgot what it was really like and I just kept all my good memories? Seemed like there was a lot more activity then and a lot more good information. It just seemed different. This was right before and right after it got switched over to this new set up... I know there are still a few of you out there that have been here 3+ years... what do you guys think?



-Skye
 
I find this place to be very useful.

The only time that I find myself saying "darn, this place is slow...!" *tumbleweed blowing across the screen*

-is when I am spending too much time on here :p.

If I visit this place multiple times a day, of course it's going to be slow. Gotta keep it to just a couple, or maybe 3 visits per day, tops!
 
3 years ago is far from the "old Autopia" I know. My favorite era is the pre-Zaino round up of banning.



Try using the search button for the old Autopia. Many times it's much more entertaining to read than what's going on now.
 
Ya, it might have been more like 4 years ago... probably started usin the board more like 5 or 6 years ago... damn does time fly...
 
I think it has gotten better, all the "Z"ealots have realized there is other stuff and most people are respectful of your product choices.
 
Maybe things have just changed so incrementally that I didn't notice, but the place doesn't seem too different to me :nixweiss
 
Ya I'm sure it wasn't a sudden change, but its definitely not what it was... I don't remember the whole zaino deal... or at least don't remember it being a big deal... I do remember the whole "chemical guys" conspiracy ordeal though... that was pretty funny... load of crap actually haha But it seemed like there was a lot more activity when it came to product reviews and opinions as well as new ideas/products...
 
It IS winter in most of the country (although it hardly seems like it today in the NE). I DO remember your old screen name, but I don't think you really want to bring that up, do you?
 
haha Whats up Setec?! You actually remember me? David doesn't... I really don't remember it... you could bring it up, but it was all bs anyway... he should know that... I bought and resold CGs locally... why was I ever thrown under the bus? WHO KNOWS?!
 
I like this autopia all but one question as been answered. I agree I check it once a day see what's new post what needs to and carry on.
 
yakky said:
I think it has gotten better, all the "Z"ealots have realized there is other stuff and most people are respectful of your product choices.



I was under the impression that the majority of the hardcore "Z"ealots all got banned? I wouldn't chaulk it up to them realizing there's other stuff. :secret
 
yakky said:
I think it has gotten better, all the "Z"ealots have realized there is other stuff and most people are respectful of your product choices.





There are differences of opinion about what methods and products work. Typically, those differences get examined and tested, people make their cases, present their arguments, others critique and present their own ideas and everyone benefits from the discussion.



Of course, this isn't a free speech zone. The owners and moderators are free to censor anything they like. I agree with keeping things civil and respectful so we can work together to get to the best result.



Then there's this : "Spamming or business advertisements by businesses who do not Sponsor AUTOPIA.ORG is not allowed. Threads or PMs determined to be "spam" will be deleted or forwarded to the Administrators. This type of posting may result with privileges to our forum being restricted or denied without notice.



To offer added support to our Sponsors, we would ask that you refrain from overly recommending non-Sponsor businesses, products, or services that are in direct competition to our Sponsors in your thread replies. If you wish to offer another source to our Members, please use the PM option to give the information to a members in a private manner.



Soliciting for Members of this site to go and join another site is also considered a form of Spam. Mentioning another site for reference or as an information source is acceptable but direct solicitation aimed at our Members to bolster some other site's Membership is inappropriate and subject to Moderator disciplinary action.



If you represent a car care product vendor, please identify your business in your signature line (phone numbers, email addresses and website URLs are not allowed).



If you are interested in Sponsoring AUTOPIA.ORG, please contact us."



So, as long as we know that the information here is limited in that way, we can live with those limitations or move on.



It seems to me, an alternative to strictly removing mention of non-sponsored products might be to contact the makers of products that start getting noticed here and asking them if they'd like to get involved. That way the commercial interests could be addressed while still allowing for a more free exchange of ideas.





All the best,

Robert
 
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So was it really 'this' active a few years ago, or were those bots.
 
First let me add to what I last said...

I am only back to gain more knowledge of detailing and share the knowledge I have with others. I no longer run my detailing business and no longer sell anything. I make way too much money to make it worthwile and have way too little time to spend it detailing for my business like I was. So I am not here to "promote" anything. I am however here to share my opinion on things and products (no matter the brand).



Now my opinion on Robert's post... That is all well and good, everybody has to make money and autopia makes its by selling products and selling advertisement opportunities, but I think it should only be taken so far... It seems to me like it isn't that strict in here, but I know some forums are HORRIBLE about sensoring non-sponsor names... if its not the company or a representative from it, let the people say what they want about it. Its an opinion and here (well at least the old autopia) it is usually sought after quite freaquently. If I wanna know how well a detailing product works, no matter the brand, I'll post and ask... or search... and get several different opinions (hopefully) and that is exactly what I was looking for. Now if everything was sensored but the sponsors I wouldn't believe anything that was said here and I wouldn't be here... reducing traffic, thus reducing the amount of people that see the sponsors, thus reducing the effectiveness of sponsoring this site... so yes, don't let people spam, but don't sensor everything...

:)
 
ThatGuySkye said:
haha Whats up Setec?! You actually remember me? David doesn't... I really don't remember it... you could bring it up, but it was all bs anyway... he should know that... I bought and resold CGs locally... why was I ever thrown under the bus? WHO KNOWS?!



I don't know why you got thrown under, it didn't make a whole lot of sense at the time. I think part of the difference you perceive now may be due to the season, the lack of the chatroom as it was back then, the economy and the national mood, and perhaps some products and some realizations about where products come from that radically altered processes and perceptions "back in the old days".



For instance, a lot of interest in detailing comes when people get a new car...that's not happening so much right now. A lot of people are concerned about other things than detailing, don't have as much disposable income, etc. It may also be that there aren't quite as many new product lines being discovered as there were back then...Poorboy's was fairly new, Optimum, Jeff's Werkstatt, people were just discovering Menzerna and their Ceramiclear polishes, etc.



David Fermani said:
I was under the impression that the majority of the hardcore "Z"ealots all got banned? I wouldn't chaulk it up to them realizing there's other stuff. :secret



It wasn't that the majority of Zealots got banned, it was that the majority of Zealots that couldn't be civil got banned, IMO.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
It wasn't that the majority of Zealots got banned, it was that the majority of Zealots that couldn't be civil got banned, IMO.



Whats so civil that the top posters at that time could not detail their way out of a paper bag? Of course none of them where using zaino so they where the chosen few who got a pass.
 
gmblack3a said:
Whats so civil that the top posters at that time could not detail their way out of a paper bag? Of course none of them where using zaino so they where the chosen few who got a pass.



I think you're proving my point...



After a while, all this chest puffing starts to sound like Gordo Cooper in The Right Stuff; "who's the best pilot you've ever seen?" Boring.
 
yakky said:
I think it has gotten better, all the "Z"ealots have realized there is other stuff and most people are respectful of your product choices.



Agreed. Not nearly as much product hype as there used to be and now the focus is more on prep than LSP.
 
David Fermani said:
I was under the impression that the majority of the hardcore "Z"ealots all got banned? I wouldn't chaulk it up to them realizing there's other stuff. :secret



Several of them got banned and the rest have toned it down. Whether or not they've moved on to other products, I don't know. I remember when Todd was on a Zaino kick but his later before and after threads featured a plethora of different LSPs. When I first joined Autopia, all I used was Meguiars products so that is what I mostly talked about. Now I use a little bit of everything. That's what I like about Autopia, the exposure to products you otherwise wouldn't even know about.
 
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