What do you think of MOTHER's products?
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metropolitandet
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Mother's now owns Mark V. I personally believe that Mark V make the best detailing chemicals on the market. They also make imposter versions of 3M's excellent compounds at a fraction of the cost.
John Kleven
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John Kleven
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Dan
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pogo123 said:
Agreed, it is very flexible and doesn't dry up fast like most OTC stuff. I also like the Powerball mini, although I don't like that they don't sell replacement foam for it.
imported_Bence
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Has anyone experiences with the professional product line?
They will be introducing a totally new, reengineered professional line in June.
They will be introducing a totally new, reengineered professional line in June.
Big Leegr
Swirls?!?! NNOOOOOOO!!!!!
I've used the rubbing compound and the foam pad polish for dark paints. Both worked very well with the rotary. Easy removal. Not dusty. Left the car very glossy.
(Looks like I will either not get this new release in June (as I have so much of the original) or I'll be overstocking. Hmm... Decisions, decisions...
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(Looks like I will either not get this new release in June (as I have so much of the original) or I'll be overstocking. Hmm... Decisions, decisions...
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Big Leegr
Swirls?!?! NNOOOOOOO!!!!!
yakky said:
They sell replacement foam refills for the mini, but not the full sized one (as far as I know.) Part # is #05145. It's a 2 pack.
I've used their 3 step for the last couple years, cleaner, sealer & glaze, carnuba, and have received lots of compliments from even random people at gas stations and such and this is on a 12 year old car. Was doing it all by hand too. Seemed to last a while too and buffed out nicely although did leave some dust.
Now that I have a PC am going to try a few different products just to see the difference.
Now that I have a PC am going to try a few different products just to see the difference.
I haven't found a Mothers product that failed to perform, with most performing beyond my expectations. The only one that was (initially) disappointing was B2B, until I learnt how to use it properly. Its a restorer, not a dressing.
The stand out line for me is the Reflections range. Totally awesome.
The stand out line for me is the Reflections range. Totally awesome.
Pennypacker
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Mother's products are excellent, and not just as an OTC option, but in general. (I also think they have the coolest logo. 
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Bunky
Detailing Gnosis
Alfisti said:
Did you think Back to Black was a protectant? It is supposedly also useful to remove the white effect when using waxes. Has your use confirmed that?
imported_TonyFromOz
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abnot.
I might suggest that the Back To Black is useful for this before the application of other products, not after.
Bring the trim back to its original colour prior to polishing or waxing, and it makes cleaning any 'white stuff' that might then get on that trim a lot easier.
Existing 'white stuff' from previous applications can be removed with some work, but as Alfisti mentions in his post.........
Hope this helps.
Tony.
abnot said:
I might suggest that the Back To Black is useful for this before the application of other products, not after.
Bring the trim back to its original colour prior to polishing or waxing, and it makes cleaning any 'white stuff' that might then get on that trim a lot easier.
Existing 'white stuff' from previous applications can be removed with some work, but as Alfisti mentions in his post.........
Alfisti said:
Hope this helps.
Tony.
Dan
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B@tm@n said:
Their wax is a very well balanced wax, it lasts quite a while, goes on and off easily and looks great. I don't think you would have a problem using meguiars step two, but I'm sure for best results they would recommend their own stuff. I really need to try out their power wax, I got a free bottle when I had issues with powerpolish (got a bad batch).
ProStreetCamaro
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Mothers reflections synthetic wax is one of my favorite. So easy on and off it almost applies and removes itself. Gives the look of a nuba with very long lasting protection. I used it on my fiances black infinity G35X LAST SPRING and her car still looks great and beads water super tight almost a full year later. Granted her car is garage kept at night but she drives it ALOT for work every single day.
I also love the FX tire shine. It does not sling at all and gives a nice shine that also lasts for a couple weeks.
I also love the FX tire shine. It does not sling at all and gives a nice shine that also lasts for a couple weeks.
Kriminal
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B@tm@n said:
I used that stuff on the whole car for the first time this morning (only done the hood last week after PCing). It really does come up well. The best thing for me was the fact that it didn't leave any kinda "staining", that Meg's NXT can (last time I used that stuff, I had to use the PC to buff it off). Meg's just doesn't seem to dry back quick enough IMO compared to Mother's that is.
It is soooo easy to wax the entire car, go back to first panel and just wipe over with the MF towel to remove.
Did leave a slight dusting though. So you may need to use two towels - one to remove the wax, one to dust the edges.
I wouldn't particularly say it hides swirls THAT well though - especially if the Sun's out
Still, an amazing product at a ridiculously cheap price. Definite thumbs up :2thumbs:
imported_Bence
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Mothers was a mystery brand here in Hungary because it was only known from American magazines. So I didn't know what to expect but was definitely curious. I asked questions and I was glad when Paul (Alfisti) steered me towards the new Reflections and FX lines. I already had the old three stepper, and I was super satified with them. Boy, the products performed exceptionally in the looks and the ease-of-use department. The wetness is great, beading action is insane, the color reproduction is true and honest (no darkening), and the residue is just falls off. What I didn't expect, was the durability. Even the RSW pulled a good three months (end of winter, early spring).
I definitely will try the new pro line when it comes out in June!
Guys, tell me more please about the B2B!
I definitely will try the new pro line when it comes out in June!
Guys, tell me more please about the B2B!
imported_TonyFromOz
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Bence.
Back to Black is a product that requires a little patience, and I actually experimented with it in an effort to work out how to get it right.
People tend to confuse it with a Protectant, but as Paul mentioned previously, it's a Restorer and not a dressing.
Where people may have had a bad experience with B2B has in the main stemmed from believing the product is similar to a protectant. Wipe on and then wipe off. Applied in this manner, I have heard some say that the product then runs if rain follows closely after the application.
Back to Black is a penetrating type of product.
It will restore external black trim that has faded to different shades of grey sometimes in patches.
This is how I got the best results.
It should be the very first step in any work planned for your car.
I applied a small dob to the end of a terry cloth. I use face washers that have been 'retired' from the bathroom. The dob should be a similar size to a small coin applied to the tip of your terry cloth covered index finger.
Don't just apply it. Work it in. Rub really hard. Even though the product is whitish in colour, it goes on dark, so you can see the area you are working. If it's the vinyl trim running the length of the side of the car at half door height, work an area about a foot in length before applying another dob of the thickish white liquid. Complete the whole vinyl area in work and leave the product to penetrate. Go to the next vinyl area, and work that one. Complete all the vinyl, remembering that the trick is to work it in really hard.
Then I went ahead with step one of the Mothers Three stage plan.
During application of this first step, the Pre Wax Cleaner product, I had another old terry face washer, slightly damp, and any product that got onto the trim, I wiped off, and you can see it, either as you do it, or as it hazes up. The same applies for application of any product to your paint. Keep the damp cloth handy.
After completing this first step, I then got another dry terry cloth and went over the whole of the black trim, again rubbing very hard.
So, as I'm an old guy and I don't work as fast as you younger guys, the time between application of B2B and then rubbing off was a good couple of hours.
During this removal process, rubbing the vinyl did not seem to be achieving much when looking at the terry cloth, but I did notice that a couple of the darker shade streaks did go away, so this removal process was actually doing something, and when I finished the vinyl was again a solid black with no streaks, similar to what it originally looked like before fading to grey over time. The difference really was remarkable.
The real trick lies in applying it and leaving it, and NOT removing it immediately upon application.
After each wash and an application of a spray wax type topper, I just go over the black vinyl with a terry cloth, just rubbing it along the vinyl.
After that original application of Back to Black, subsequent cleaning can then be done with a protectant, and I do this when the time comes to reapply the Carnauba Wax sacrificial layer stage three, say every eight to twelve weeks.
So, Back to Black to restore, and a protectant to protect.
A year later, the trim on my 5 year old car is maybe approaching a new application, but maybe that's just my eyes. I seem more attuned to looking for these things now..
The original improvement I found amazing.
It was just a matter of finding a correct method to use the product.
Tony.
Bence said:
Back to Black is a product that requires a little patience, and I actually experimented with it in an effort to work out how to get it right.
People tend to confuse it with a Protectant, but as Paul mentioned previously, it's a Restorer and not a dressing.
Where people may have had a bad experience with B2B has in the main stemmed from believing the product is similar to a protectant. Wipe on and then wipe off. Applied in this manner, I have heard some say that the product then runs if rain follows closely after the application.
Back to Black is a penetrating type of product.
It will restore external black trim that has faded to different shades of grey sometimes in patches.
This is how I got the best results.
It should be the very first step in any work planned for your car.
I applied a small dob to the end of a terry cloth. I use face washers that have been 'retired' from the bathroom. The dob should be a similar size to a small coin applied to the tip of your terry cloth covered index finger.
Don't just apply it. Work it in. Rub really hard. Even though the product is whitish in colour, it goes on dark, so you can see the area you are working. If it's the vinyl trim running the length of the side of the car at half door height, work an area about a foot in length before applying another dob of the thickish white liquid. Complete the whole vinyl area in work and leave the product to penetrate. Go to the next vinyl area, and work that one. Complete all the vinyl, remembering that the trick is to work it in really hard.
Then I went ahead with step one of the Mothers Three stage plan.
During application of this first step, the Pre Wax Cleaner product, I had another old terry face washer, slightly damp, and any product that got onto the trim, I wiped off, and you can see it, either as you do it, or as it hazes up. The same applies for application of any product to your paint. Keep the damp cloth handy.
After completing this first step, I then got another dry terry cloth and went over the whole of the black trim, again rubbing very hard.
So, as I'm an old guy and I don't work as fast as you younger guys, the time between application of B2B and then rubbing off was a good couple of hours.
During this removal process, rubbing the vinyl did not seem to be achieving much when looking at the terry cloth, but I did notice that a couple of the darker shade streaks did go away, so this removal process was actually doing something, and when I finished the vinyl was again a solid black with no streaks, similar to what it originally looked like before fading to grey over time. The difference really was remarkable.
The real trick lies in applying it and leaving it, and NOT removing it immediately upon application.
After each wash and an application of a spray wax type topper, I just go over the black vinyl with a terry cloth, just rubbing it along the vinyl.
After that original application of Back to Black, subsequent cleaning can then be done with a protectant, and I do this when the time comes to reapply the Carnauba Wax sacrificial layer stage three, say every eight to twelve weeks.
So, Back to Black to restore, and a protectant to protect.
A year later, the trim on my 5 year old car is maybe approaching a new application, but maybe that's just my eyes. I seem more attuned to looking for these things now..
The original improvement I found amazing.
It was just a matter of finding a correct method to use the product.
Tony.