Questions on Zaino
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imported_DetailDan
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wfedwar said:
Im confused as to what misinformation on Zaino is in this thread? Please explain this so I use it correctly. The stuff I posted came from Sal himself. Would you like to see the email I received from him today?
LouisanaJeeper
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I think the 2 step AIO + Z2 is still a pretty good system.
No much more involved than the old steps of glaze+wax, Klasse AIO + SG, etc, etc
back before Zaino AIO and ZFX the system was a much bigger PITA. Zaino has worked to make the system more user friendly over the yrs
No much more involved than the old steps of glaze+wax, Klasse AIO + SG, etc, etc
back before Zaino AIO and ZFX the system was a much bigger PITA. Zaino has worked to make the system more user friendly over the yrs
Deanski
STUTTGART'S FINEST
For a quick Zaino protection, ZAIO followed by Z-CS, then maintain with Z8 is just stunning on black! Sure, you can do the whole ZAIO, Z2-Pro/ZFX and maintain with Z8 as well. Both do last a good long time and as long as you wash the finish with Z7, maintain with Z8, I think you'll be happy. I sure as hell am!!
Still, it's all personal preference as to a sealent or a wax, you just have to try one thing at a time to see which one you really like.
However, as with ANY sealent or wax, it's only as good as how well you polish the finish and bring up the gloss alone! The better the gloss from polishing, the better your LSP will be.
Just be aware that after polishing, you're better off washing the finish prior to the LSP to remove any oils left over from a polish. Or you can do the IPA wipe. Anything to get all oils off is the key and most important no matter if you use Zaino or any other sealant to get the best bonding to the finish. Otherwise, it looks good for a short time and wears off due to the oilly film left behind from the polish.
I'm very impressed with Z8! Makes black look like a rolling mirror and gives off a deeper look to it than most other sealants/sprays can, getting closer to a wax look w/o the drawbacks from wax. Looks more like the paint just came out of the paint booth after heat curing.:xyxthumbs
Regards,
Deanski
Still, it's all personal preference as to a sealent or a wax, you just have to try one thing at a time to see which one you really like.
However, as with ANY sealent or wax, it's only as good as how well you polish the finish and bring up the gloss alone! The better the gloss from polishing, the better your LSP will be.
Just be aware that after polishing, you're better off washing the finish prior to the LSP to remove any oils left over from a polish. Or you can do the IPA wipe. Anything to get all oils off is the key and most important no matter if you use Zaino or any other sealant to get the best bonding to the finish. Otherwise, it looks good for a short time and wears off due to the oilly film left behind from the polish.
I'm very impressed with Z8! Makes black look like a rolling mirror and gives off a deeper look to it than most other sealants/sprays can, getting closer to a wax look w/o the drawbacks from wax. Looks more like the paint just came out of the paint booth after heat curing.:xyxthumbs
Regards,
Deanski
imported_DennisH
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First and foremost Sal Zanio is a salesman and looking though this thread he has done a great job and has been very successful and convincing - not much different than a used car salesman just a different product.
Deanski
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DennisH said:
Hey there! How's that flamesuit now-a days? Time to go put it on!:chuckle:
Deanski
I look at it like car performance parts. Sure you can add them and the car engine will work. But the results may vary and the car manufacturer cannot guarantee that it will perform the same or have the same gas mileage as before.
With zaino, sure it will work without its own product line, but cannot be expected to have the full durability. Some people will get great results and some wont, but without the full system it cant be expected. It can still be used though for good looks and probably better than average durability. I think that's what wfedwar is saying. Hopefully that was kinda stated clearly.
With zaino, sure it will work without its own product line, but cannot be expected to have the full durability. Some people will get great results and some wont, but without the full system it cant be expected. It can still be used though for good looks and probably better than average durability. I think that's what wfedwar is saying. Hopefully that was kinda stated clearly.
Deanski
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Mindflux said:
BINGO!:2thumbs:
Deanski
wannafbody
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DennisH said:
Well, first most used car salesmen don't have good reputations. This isn't an underhanded slam at Sal is it? Secondly, most used cars are below the quality of new cars. Very few people would rank Zaino as a mid tier product. Thirdly, Zaino is very durable when used according to the system. If Sal really wanted to make a killing he'd sell a carnauba wax that lasted 4 weeks and charge $70-$150 for it.
SuperBee364
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What??? Another Zaino thread gone to flames? No WAY! 
The instructions for using Zaino correctly are written in plain, easily understood, easily followed English right on Zaino's web site. Not really sure why this is getting so confused.
A quick summary:
Zaino *recommends* that, when applying either Z2 or Z5, you either apply it over ZAIO, or use ZFX. It isn't a *requirement*, just a recommendation. If you then want to do more coats in the same day, you *need* to use ZFX for proper curing and adhesion.
The passion this product line brings up in people has always left me scratching my head. One of the newer detailing related forums that I lurk on is so Z-centric I'm scared to post. It's like Sal has a mind control device on everyone that posts there.
It's just *car sealant* people, not a religion!! Sheesh!
The instructions for using Zaino correctly are written in plain, easily understood, easily followed English right on Zaino's web site. Not really sure why this is getting so confused.
A quick summary:
Zaino *recommends* that, when applying either Z2 or Z5, you either apply it over ZAIO, or use ZFX. It isn't a *requirement*, just a recommendation. If you then want to do more coats in the same day, you *need* to use ZFX for proper curing and adhesion.
The passion this product line brings up in people has always left me scratching my head. One of the newer detailing related forums that I lurk on is so Z-centric I'm scared to post. It's like Sal has a mind control device on everyone that posts there.
It's just *car sealant* people, not a religion!! Sheesh!
SuperBee364 said:What??? Another Zaino thread gone to flames? No WAY!
The instructions for using Zaino correctly are written in plain, easily understood, easily followed English right on Zaino's web site. Not really sure why this is getting so confused.
A quick summary:
Zaino *recommends* that, when applying either Z2 or Z5, you either apply it over ZAIO, or use ZFX. It isn't a *requirement*, just a recommendation. If you then want to do more coats in the same day, you *need* to use ZFX for proper curing and adhesion.
The passion this product line brings up in people has always left me scratching my head. One of the newer detailing related forums that I lurk on is so Z-centric I'm scared to post. It's like Sal has a mind control device on everyone that posts there.
It's just *car sealant* people, not a religion!! Sheesh!
:dance
People are just passionate about their product. I know there are people who are equally as passionate about Klasse or Werkstat or Zym*l.
:nixweiss
Eliot Ness
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Yeah, what Supe said. I also don't see the resistance to ZFX unless it's to the price. The value of being able to do three applications in one day outweigh the cost for me. And hey, if you can use a computer to navigate here and read this then mixing a little Z with ZFX isn't going to be over your head.SuperBee364 said:
Yeah, what Supe sez again! Relax guys, no matter how many folks here decide not to use Zaino, Sal will still be in business and continue selling his products.SuperBee364 said:
imported_DetailDan
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SuperBee364 said:
:rofl SO true. Its the only thing they know. I almost feel sorry for them.
TortoiseAWD
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SuperBee364 said:
Tort
Eliot Ness said:
It's not so much the cost or the mixing, it's the belief that all those coats mean something. The funny thing is, I like and use Zaino products. I just get tired of hearing all the odd "rules" that surround them. Seriously, guys. These are tweaked Duragloss products. Don't make them something they're not.
wfedwar said:
No. I just know better than to spread FUD. You can say they're tweaked DG products and I can say they are not. The fact of the matter is neither of us have concrete proof in either direction. But stating the product is something it may not be at all is just damn silly.
That's like saying Zym*l vintage is a Turtle wax cake. :har:
I will admit there are similarities between the lines. But where's DG's catalyst (ZFX)? Where's their WOWA sealant? Did Zaino just magically concoct those themselves? Ut-oh it looks like their Chemists' aren't the same after all!