PC vs. UDM vs. Festool: Vibration comparision results are in

I'm 100% with ScottWax! I've been asking for the same thing since day 1 and I have yet to see any in depth reviews on this thing. Everyone talks about the same things, the size of the shroud, the on/off switch, the vibration, the length of the cord, the fact that it doesn't bog, how heavy it is, etc. All that is good and well but does nothing to convince me, or dissuade me, from buying one. Considering the fact that I have a PC and a rotary and am getting wonderful results with them, I would need to be convinced in order to make the purchase. All it would take to convince me is to be shown that 1.) the UDM can not only remove more defects than a PC, but it can also 2.) do it faster than a PC.



There's a member here named Whitelightning46 who does excellent details, I thought he was using a rotary judging from the corrections he's been able to do, but he's been using a PC this whole time. I have yet to see anyone post up a correction job that's even been equal to what he's been able to accomplish with the PC.



The UDM has been in the hands of many competent detailers for a while now, i'm beginning to think they aren't all that impressed with the machine:nixweiss
 
vxrmarc said:
Ok Ok Ok , you want it back.....:mad:



What can i say about the festool......



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Interestingly i dont think the festool has a smaller backing plate available and also struggled to find it on the net even after googleing??
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The Festool has a rigid backing plate as an alternative to the plate that comes with the unit. It's called a sanding plate and costs around $19 or so.



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I've been using mine for the last year and it is definitely a very powerful tool. It is expensive like the others said, but the ergonomics and power of this machine are tops. The biggest use I get from this tool is repairing plastic body panels (bumpers, rocker panels, headlight/tailight lenses, etc).



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Ron please chime in about your "PC on steroids" ,the Dynabrade random orbital head kit #61374 with 3/4"(yes 3/4") random orbit motion for your rotary.
 
I believe the Festool "polishing" backing plate is a bit smaller than the sanding one that comes with it. I don't know the size for certain, but in the middle of a detail, I tried to switch thinking it might be softer, but was a little small for the 7 1/2" curved pad I was using.
 
vxrmarc said:
Ok Ok Ok , you want it back.....:mad:



What can i say about the festool......



I have used it for around 2 months before realizing that unfortunatly it has to go back to its rightful owner........



The comparison between it and the pc i have is quite simply none.....



There are no comparisons because the festool feels like a sturdy well built piece of kit and the pc like a hobbyist tool.......



I would love to keep the festool but can live with the pc ......



The other major thing i found with the pc when it arrived was the festool backing plate is a huge round rubber disc with good distortion for awkward angles and the pc backing plate looks like it has been cut out with scissors from a huge velcro sheet and glued together.....



So its snap-on vs snap-off im afraid....



But you get what you pay for in this world and the choice is there......



Interestingly i dont think the festool has a smaller backing plate available and also struggled to find it on the net even after googleing??
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I am now the owner of thus said festool.......HOORAY!!!!
 
ZoranC said:
Considering words were "he caved in to my begging" which one you think was the case?
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Considering he didn't say if he was begging the dude to let him buy it or begging the dude to give it to him, why do you think I asked the question?
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rkf76 said:
Considering he didn't say if he was begging the dude to let him buy it or begging the dude to give it to him, why do you think I asked the question?
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Because you, unlike others, beg to buy, while others just go and buy it?
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ZoranC said:
Considering words were "he caved in to my begging" which one you think was the case?
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It sounds like most relationships I've been in! But not in a gay way, not that there's anything wrong that. :chuckle:
 
rkf76 said:
I asked the question because I beg to buy? :hm :think:
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Exactly my point. If you don't beg to buy (like everybody does not because when one wants to buy something easily available around he doesn't need to beg an existing owner to buy from hi, he just goes and gets it anywhere) then why you would wonder whether he begged to buy?



:hm
 
Scottwax said:
Keep the PC, get the Cyclo carpet brushes, bolt one on and use the PC to clean carpets and mats. I have two PCs, one is dead so I'm going to have it fixed and set it up for carpet duty. :bigups
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Scottwax, will the Cyclo carpet brushes work with a UDM? Or a Festool?
 
ZoranC said:
Correct, and even if one gets Festool I don't see need for having "PC" too going away. With "PC" you can do carpets, 4" spot pads, all the stuff you can not do with Festool due to design of it's backing plate mounting. I am keeping the UDM.
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Can you use a UDM for carpets and a 4" spot pad with a UDM?
 
bert31 said:
Scottwax, will the Cyclo carpet brushes work with a UDM? Or a Festool?
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UDM has exact same thread size as PC and Cyclo do so Cyclo carpet brushes (and all other "backing plates" meant for PC) will work with UDM.



Festool has it's own backing plate mounting method so Cyclo brushes will not work with it and I am not aware of any aftermarket acessories of such kind for it.
 
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