Paint overspray removal is a specialized field

The purpose of the thread is to get mediators of this forum to remove the ones from two years ago. Yes I did use those forums keywords to make the WordPress blog go to their search page. This thread was coming up on Google search results without anything from me linked to it. The reason it comes up is because you guys started linking my video to this site first. Rasky1 is the guy that started all this by linking one of my videos to this site. Then 17 of you guys put dislike on the video, before i ever thought about posting on this site. These are their comments before I ever considered making any comments about them. “supercharged”. He says, “first of all the guy is a homo, not somebody I’d trust to detail a car. Second, he is rubbing the **** out of paint with that clay bar using hardly any lube…if he likes it bone dry up his butt, that might be ok, but with the paint it’s different. And he is using a razor blade on the paint? He is defenetely a nerd…I’ve seen some dumb detailers, but this one takes the cake”. . Another member named “Minicoop832″ had this to say, “WTF a razor blade that deserves a slap on the face”. These types of post are just fine for detailingbliss to leave running for years.
 
no that is not a threat, am only stating the truth. This is why they come up with these stupid names, so they can comment without anyone really knowing who they are. This is not a professional site in the least. Its a bunch of kids that are no different then the guy that cleans my swimming pool or mows my lawn. I repair vehicles from severe overspray damage. Your jobs are to wash and wax people's vehicles. Sometimes you may buff out some scratches, big deal. This is done by millions of folks all day long. There is nothing special about something that everyone is clearly able to do. That is why this forum is here, for the millions of people that can all do the same thing. If that were not true, then there would not be hundreds of detail shops in every town and city all over the world. I think seeing me repair vehicles like no other is just too big of a pill for some swallow. That really sounds like me bragging, but not really or you would see someone repairing auto trim, includes "textured pieces". Removing hard core water stains without using compounds or wet-sanding. Unlike you guys I have lots of videos to back up my big mouth. Someone match this work or go wash and wax someone's car like good little boys and girls. I will never post on this site or Meguiar'sonline, and detailingbiss if the mediators of these 3 sites will end the threads so that they will not end up on search results.
 
I have misspelled a word or two, but everyone on this forum has. I am making a video while am posting on this site and its late and am tired from working out. The day time is for making 400 to 500 per vehicle times 4 a day for my hack work. If you would take the time to watch this video, then you will see that the orbital is only a small part of removing swirls. I first cut the vehicle by hand, then I use the portal and last the orbital. i have not seen a video from you or anyone else removing swirls, and then taking the vehicle outside. Most of all the buffer is running at just over 1000-RPMS, and am not using a compound. BC-2 is very low on the abrasive scale. Okay now lets see some of your work. Give us all a link to your Youtube or website. If your going to talk, lets see your work. If there was someone on the net or elsewhere, don't you think after more than 3 years they would have made a video of them using a razor blade. This is the work of one of you detail guys that has videos on Youtube. I will fax any of you their invoice. I will not mention their name on the net. They did me no wrong.
 
You know damn well you can go to the Click and Brag section here, and the equivalent on a number of other forums and see before and afters, most every one of them achieved through means of those evil compounds and polishes. And you messed up another "your". I look forward to seeing if you'll hawk another one of your videos in a response.
 
You do realize that you just backtracked, right? You said that you don't use "any" compounds or use anything that will "degrade" the vehicle's clear coat, yet you just admitted that you polish cars with BC-2, which is ABRASIVE. If you're using anything abrasive on a polisher, no matter whether it's aggressive or mild, then - according to your standards - you are "damaging" the vehicles finish because you're removing paint.



I'm curious: since you're so certain that your technique does not remove any clear coat, have you ever measured the paint before and after you started working on it?



Also, you said that we "don't understand what it is that you do," but - as evidenced by your pervious posts - you clearly don't understand what it is that we do. If you think the pros on here are no different than the detail guys on the corner, then you don't have the slightest clue about what we do.



At this point, I know I'm beating a dead horse because, based on how you've responded to other comments, you're probably just going to rant about something that doesn't actually have anything to do with te subject at hand and then post a link to one of your videos; but at least that's off my chest.



Finally, if you really are making around 10k a week, I don't see why anything that anyone on the forums say would bother you. Apparently it's not affecting your business...
 
Jeff Suggs said:
JuneBug that is one of the best replies to all the stupid remarks by myself and others. I have nothing to prove to anyone. You guys need to stop trying to think of negative comments about me or my work and come up with something new for a change. I will never put a solvent on any paint job for any reason. I have videos of repairs done, then the vehicles are taken outside under direct sunlight. I then film them in HD a inch away from the paint. You can see the metal flake in the paint. There are 241 videos and you all have only looked at a few. Like i said before it was not me, but one of your members "raskyI" or whatever that took one of my videos and linked it here and everyone started commenting on things they really have no clue about. This is not the only forum, meguiarsOnline, and detailingbliss members made comments also. I waited for two years, and the people that run these forums let it go on. This is what detailingbliss members had to say, word for word DetailingBliss Allows Members To Slander Jeff Suggs For Over 2 Years ! | Polyurethane Spray Foam Insulation Overspray



Wrong! I never once started a thread linking your videos to here or any other forum. I've definitely commented on them though when others have posted them on here. I also never went to your YouTube channel and commented or filled it full of spam like you've done to mine.



Here is every thread I've created on this forum...please show me where I've created a thread posting your video(s)....

http://www.autopia.org/forum/search.php?searchid=2004440





Jeff Suggs said:
The purpose of the thread is to get mediators of this forum to remove the ones from two years ago. Yes I did use those forums keywords to make the WordPress blog go to their search page. This thread was coming up on Google search results without anything from me linked to it. The reason it comes up is because you guys started linking my video to this site first. Rasky1 is the guy that started all this by linking one of my videos to this site. Then 17 of you guys put dislike on the video, before i ever thought about posting on this site. These are their comments before I ever considered making any comments about them. “supercharged”. He says, “first of all the guy is a homo, not somebody I’d trust to detail a car. Second, he is rubbing the **** out of paint with that clay bar using hardly any lube…if he likes it bone dry up his butt, that might be ok, but with the paint it’s different. And he is using a razor blade on the paint? He is defenetely a nerd…I’ve seen some dumb detailers, but this one takes the cake”. . Another member named “Minicoop832″ had this to say, “WTF a razor blade that deserves a slap on the face”. These types of post are just fine for detailingbliss to leave running for years.









Thread starter not me! Video not linked by me! Best have your facts straight before you bring my name into any of this!



http://www.autopia.org/forum/machine-polishing-sanding/138501-car-dealership-detailing-action.html
 
RaskyR1 said:
Wrong! I never once started a thread linking your videos to here or any other forum. I've definitely commented on them though when others have posted them on here. I also never went to your YouTube channel and commented or filled it full of spam like you've done to mine.



Here is every thread I've created on this forum...please show me where I've created a thread posting your video(s)....

http://www.autopia.org/forum/search.php?searchid=2004440















Thread starter not me! Video not linked by me! Best have your facts straight before you bring my name into any of this!



http://www.autopia.org/forum/machine-polishing-sanding/138501-car-dealership-detailing-action.html



Its funny that you mention the YouTube channel spamming he does... He did it to me as well.. Until I blocked him...



Good luck with business, Mr.Suggs. I cannot believe that anyone would hire a guy with character like yours.
 
I think if someone here could see firsthand the results and if it marrs the paint or not, that would put a lot of this bickering to rest. So why not let someone look at your work and see what's really going on?



On a side note: there's obviously a lot more to all this than what most of us know as certain names are thrown around and whatnot. Let's stop all that and get down to it.
 
I think it goes beyond that. Jeff comes here to advertise, not share his methods. He appears to know everything already and places himself on a pedestal. He doesn't respond to any direct questions. Its pretty much like talking to a TV set. IMO the mods should drop his account. A forum is an interactive place, what Jeff is doing is not productive in the least.
 
Hey, "talking to the TV is not a bad thing!"

We all yell at the TV when watching something stupid, that's part of the fun, watching the "special ones" do dumb things.

LOL!

This thread fits that description very well.

Grumpy
 
Ron Ketcham said:
Hey, "talking to the TV is not a bad thing!"

We all yell at the TV when watching something stupid, that's part of the fun, watching the "special ones" do dumb things.

LOL!

This thread fits that description very well.

Grumpy



Best reply ever.





Honestly, it's always entertaining to see Jeff fling poo at everyone here while claiming to be the best at, well...everything. He's walking, talking ego and can do no wrong. Any effort to EDUCATE him is a waste, since he already knows everything. So the best we can do is sit back and enjoy the crazy.
 
Man oh man, I sure have missed the forums...



I don't think it's so much the blading action but the polishing technique, especially with the wool pad and the crazy fast out of control arm movements that are the problem. I wonder how many other emblems have been thrown off..
 
All I know is Jeff gave me the confidence to bust out a plastic razor and scrape off dried bonded bee poop.



Not sure about going to town with a wool pad and no taping, going over edges, over trim for the new look, scrubbing the paint with a MF or a falling apart pad on a Porter DA.
 
Wheelzntoys said:
All I know is Jeff gave me the confidence to bust out a plastic razor and scrape off dried bonded bee poop.



Not sure about going to town with a wool pad and no taping, going over edges, over trim for the new look, scrubbing the paint with a MF or a falling apart pad on a Porter DA.



BIG difference -- PLASTIC razor blade. Significantly safer than carbon steel.
 
In all seriousness, I would love to see a write up by Jeff, complete with pictures and painfully simple explanations of his entire process, just so everyone can know exactly how he does things. He seems to want us to know. I know he waxes before "blading", then polishes (that, according to him, is not abrasive at all, so not sure why he does it), then some sort of glaze or wax on top.



How about it, Jeff? A complete write up with pictures explaining your process?
 
The "wax" provides lubrication for the blade.

The "blade" must be slightly "dulled" before it is used.

This method is very old school and one of the biggest companies in the world that performs overspray and IFO removal for the insurance companies, etc is Detail Masters out of San Antonio, Tx.

They stopped using the method over 20 years ago, once clay came about.

The system they use for IFO/Ferrous metal removal is the ValuGard ABC system.

I know of several situations in the past years where they would be doing 1,000 to 2,000 cars at one job for insurance companies.

And, they go all over the world to do their work, plus they do PDR hail damage repairs for them as well.

While there are tons of "specialists" that do some work, none are as big or old a company as them.

Grumpy
 
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