NXT vs Zaino?

Scottwax said:
Pretty mild and dry here but Zaino outlasts NXT2 by at least a couple months. Just don't think it looks quite as good. Seems there is always a trade-off somewhere. Still waiting on the perfect LSP that looks better than anything else on all colors and lasts at least 6 months under all conditions. :xyxthumbs
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I haven't used it but I believe the closest thing to the perfect LSP would be Collinite. If you get the carnauba glow with sealant durability, it would have to be up there. On Dave KG's wax test, it performed remarkably well in my eyes, in particular with the sheeting (tied with Zymol Royale IMO).
 
Scottwax said:
Pretty mild and dry here but Zaino outlasts NXT2 by at least a couple months. Just don't think it looks quite as good. Seems there is always a trade-off somewhere. Still waiting on the perfect LSP that looks better than anything else on all colors and lasts at least 6 months under all conditions. :xyxthumbs
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I've used 2.0 and Zaino within the last year. I think that if you finish z2 with z8, the look is much better than 2.0... IMHO
 
wannafbody said:
There's no doubt that Collinite makes good products. The 915 is probably their best.
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What is it about 915 that you think is better than 845 or 476s? I've tried 845 and I think it is great, neither of the other two but I've seen a lot of people hyping 476s as well (just not 915). Curious as to your experience with it?
 
User Name said:
What is it about 915 that you think is better than 845 or 476s? I've tried 845 and I think it is great, neither of the other two but I've seen a lot of people hyping 476s as well (just not 915). Curious as to your experience with it?
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I've never used 915,only 845, but some some claim it's a bit warmer looking. Since it's a paste it should last longer than 845 as well.
 
spamlova said:
I've used 2.0 and Zaino within the last year. I think that if you finish z2 with z8, the look is much better than 2.0... IMHO
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Well, if I finish NXT with Opti-Seal, Quikshine, AJT or even Z8 it will also look better. I am comparing one single product vs one single product, period. Adding a second product isn't a fair comparison unless you do the same for both.
 
Scottwax said:
Well, if I finish NXT with Opti-Seal, Quikshine, AJT or even Z8 it will also look better. I am comparing one single product vs one single product, period. Adding a second product isn't a fair comparison unless you do the same for both.
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True. And NXT is an OTC product with oils designed to fill swirls. Of course the oils are going to provide an intial gloss that exceeds Zaino until those oils wash away. Compare NXT and Zaino at the 1 month, 2 month and 3 month marks and see how they stack up against each other.
 
Scottwax said:
Well, if I finish NXT with Opti-Seal, Quikshine, AJT or even Z8 it will also look better. I am comparing one single product vs one single product, period. Adding a second product isn't a fair comparison unless you do the same for both.
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Scott, I was shocked when you said you got mor then 3 weeks out of NXT 2.0, but I respect your opinion. Are you washing the car with ONR, and is that how you are determining the product is still there?
 
TH0001 said:
Scott, I was shocked when you said you got mor then 3 weeks out of NXT 2.0, but I respect your opinion. Are you washing the car with ONR, and is that how you are determining the product is still there?
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I think South Texas has a climate much different from most of Florida. That may skew the results.
 
Holden_C04 said:
I think South Texas has a climate much different from most of Florida. That may skew the results.
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I thought about that as well, but Josh Vette said he doesn't get more then a few weeks as well... I know that ONR makes the water bead on my car no matter what (even if it isn't waxed), so I was just curious if that might skew the results as well. Whatever works is my motto, I'm just suprised to see such a wide spectrum of results with the majority getting 3-4 weeks, then some people getting 3-4 months.
 
TH0001 said:
I thought about that as well, but Josh Vette said he doesn't get more then a few weeks as well... I know that ONR makes the water bead on my car no matter what (even if it isn't waxed), so I was just curious if that might skew the results as well. Whatever works is my motto, I'm just suprised to see such a wide spectrum of results with the majority getting 3-4 weeks, then some people getting 3-4 months.
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I know ONR can make paint bead and that may skew the results even further. Perhaps the Meguiar's wax test is in order?



The Squeak Test - How to test for the presence of wax - Car Care Forums: Meguiar's Online
 
I never trusted that theory. I have had fresh wax (even NXT) squeak, and dull, oxizided paint make a "grinding" noise.
 
I should chime in here as I've been using NXT 2.0 regularly on a particular race car that I prep before each event (Integra). Note that I have zero experience with Zaino though.



The first detail was a wash (OCW), clay, AIO (poli-seal) and topped with NXT 2.0. This detail was performed on May 23rd, 2008. After I was finished that day, I detailed the other race car, then went back to the Integra and sprayed water on it to get an idea of the beading. (I was anxious to use NXT 2.0 as the hype was built up and I had obtained a bottle from the Megs kit). Unfortunately I don't have pictures anymore as someone lost my camera which had all of the pictures on it :(



On June 13th (21 days later) I showed up to perform a maintenance detail (wash (OCW), reseal with NXT 2.0). While doing the wash, the water was beading like crazy...honestly as though it had JUST been waxed. I noticed a very small decrease in the way the water was reacting on the paint.



The 3rd maintenance detail was performed this past Wednesday, August 27th (75 days later).

To my surprise, the paint was still showing signs of the NXT 2.0. The car was extremely dirty, so I washed with CWG @ paint cleanser dilution. I would have to honestly say that it was at about 50-60%. Obviously this is very subjective, so hopefully my work will stand for something in this observation. The water was sheeting off and leaving almost nothing to dry, and the water beads were still fairly tight. It was definitely time for a touch up (to our standards), but I am sure it could have gone on for another few weeks before nothing was left.



As for the car itself, it is a daily driven Black Acura Integra, raced in the Solosprint Series by Stage Four Motorsports. Heavily driven and abused and the paint has still stood up to the beating. After using NXT 2.0 I'm pretty confident in saying that it protects very well and lasts quite a long time.
 
TH0001 said:
Scott, I was shocked when you said you got mor then 3 weeks out of NXT 2.0, but I respect your opinion. Are you washing the car with ONR, and is that how you are determining the product is still there?
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The BMW I initially tested it on was the one at the office where they had me use their deionized water system and wash conventionally. Going on 4 months it was still beading when you mist the water on the paint, sheeting when you removed the nozzle and flooded the paint and it still had the "NXT" look.
 
wannafbody said:
True. And NXT is an OTC product with oils designed to fill swirls. Of course the oils are going to provide an intial gloss that exceeds Zaino until those oils wash away. Compare NXT and Zaino at the 1 month, 2 month and 3 month marks and see how they stack up against each other.
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At 3-4 months, the look is still there with NXT2. True, Zaino will last longer than that but at the price of NXT2, no shipping costs, no mixing ZFX, I'd rather just put on a coat of NXT2 every 3 months or so. Most people layer Zaino anyway so reapplying NXT2 is pretty much the same thing.



Anyway, I use Carnauba Moose a lot more than either NXT2 or Zaino so I really don't have a dog in this hunt. Just letting you know what my results are, and neither product has replaced CMW for me.
 
wannafbody said:
That is a scary way to test to see if a wax is present. If you twist a MF on some paint you will leave cirular swirling-especially some dark colors.
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But if you're going to do paint correction anyways, then that shouldn't be a problem;)
 
bigfoot said:
But if you're going to do paint correction anyways, then that shouldn't be a problem;)
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So your going to swirl up the car figuring out if the wax is still there, eventually figure that it isn't and then repolish the entire car? Silly but hey if it's your preferred method then go for it:bestwish
 
It sounds a bit utopistic to me that all paints *will* swirl up because of a light pressure twist of a MF.



Okay, don't try this with NBP Hondas or JB BMWs, but otherwise, I don't see a problem.
 
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