New polymer paint sealant

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Optimum Opti-Coat - Optimum Research & Development

[We (or the installer) guarantee the Opti-Coat against failure in the sense of durability. We don't guarantee against hard water spots or etching from eggs, bird bombs, etc. We sell it like this: ? Opti-Coat is a paint sealant on steroids. Think of it as giving you all the benefits of a wax or sealant (gloss, shine, protection) but with at least 3 years durability?.] Anthony Orosco

Has any professional (they won't release it to non-pros) Beta-tested or tried this product?
 
TOGWT said:
Optimum Opti-Coat - Optimum Research & Development

[We (or the installer) guarantee the Opti-Coat against failure in the sense of durability. We don't guarantee against hard water spots or etching from eggs, bird bombs, etc. We sell it like this: ? Opti-Coat is a paint sealant on steroids. Think of it as giving you all the benefits of a wax or sealant (gloss, shine, protection) but with at least 3 years durability?.] Anthony Orosco

Has any professional (they won't release it to non-pros) Beta-tested or tried this product?
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3 years, huh? Better get the polish right. :D I did see a review on another forum. If it's true, I want some.
 
TOGWT said:
[We (or the installer) guarantee the Opti-Coat against failure in the sense of durability. We don't guarantee against hard water spots or etching from eggs, bird bombs, etc.
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So that's it's weak spot huh? Interesting how a coating that could add measureable thickness to your finish could be eaten through from bird poo. I wonder if you'll compromise the coating if you attempt to clean the water spots with an ABC type wash? I'm looking forward to trying it on my next company car.
 
Not sure I understand this...

It lasts THREE YEARS, but doesn't protect against bird bombs and water spots? Well, what about tree sap, acid rain, everyday pollutants etc...

It seems to me to be a pretty outlandish claim, not backed by a whole lot of substance.
 
biolink said:
Were the rest of the reviews good? Maybe I don't want it after all.
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Even that review was good. Not sure wether he did it on purpose or got aggressive.

Biggest problem is that if you streak or use too much product like
os, upgp or cs, then it aint for you.
 
Just another lesson learned fairly early in life:

"If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is."

Example:

For Sale: 1967 Corvette Roadster 427/435 ALL ORIGINAL, Perfect!!! $14,500!
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Uh-huh. :rolleyes:

3 years? I don't think so.
 
David Fermani said:
So that's it's weak spot huh? Interesting how a coating that could add measureable thickness to your finish could be eaten through from bird poo. I wonder if you'll compromise the coating if you attempt to clean the water spots with an ABC type wash? I'm looking forward to trying it on my next company car.
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Bird excrement is very acidic and will compromise any sealant or paint finish. I didn't know that this product adds a 'measurable thickness' to a finish.

This company and its founder (Optimum Research & Development - Dr. David Ghodoussi ) usually have excellent products without BS, that's what's made me so interested, even the guys I work with in the polymer industry are amazed at the claims, I hope to be positively convinced
 
David Fermani said:
Yup - some people are experiencing 2-4 microns of film build that is not deminishing over the long period of time.
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Thanks David. I just saw this on Autopia

[For durability it is not affected by chemicals such as alcohol or prep sol, not to mention soaps. We have a customers truck coated with the product, and now over 100 thousand miles, and the coating is still going strong, resisting such things as bird bombs and a front full of insects(there is minimal etching, but much less than a non treated surface).
For standards my testing involves beading, resistance to particle adhesion(it does not get as loaded as non treated surfaces, almost feeling like it has been clayed , while next to it it feels like sandpaper), gloss and film thickness. Upon installation we get 2-4 microns of film build, and the exact spot is measured on a regular basis, so far no reduction in thickness. For gloss it has retained it's gloss (not a subjective reading but with a gloss scale) and the adjacent panel has faded (Imron paint, not base clear), showing to me that it provides good UV protection as well.] reparebrise

Upon installation we get 2-4 microns of film build, and the exact spot is measured on a regular basis, so far no reduction in thickness.

Clear coat 2-3Mils (50-76? (micron)) thickness; so 2-4? is substantial. If this applied thickness is sustainable it would have a massive impact on the car paint protection coatings industry
 
If I recall correctly, the stuff costs around 175.00. That's just for the sealant for 1 car.

No you won't be able to do any correction once it's been applied. So it better be perfect before you put it on.
 
I'm wondering how it responds to washing, drying, wiping with detail spray and a microfiber, etc.

Will it marr/scratch like clearcoat? How will it look after 50 washings/dryings? How tight will the beading be after a year?
 
[Will it marr/scratch like clearcoat?]

Scratches
Surface scratches can be seen fairly easily as they have penetrated the paint to some level.

Surface marring is also a scratch, but can best described as a micro-scratch that effects the top most surface, with some, albeit very little surface penetration

Like any other paint or applied coating; hard or soft, Opti-seal will marr and/or scratch

Force acts through a body that has a surface area; if the surface area is really small while maintaining an equal force, the pressure becomes astronomical and the object under pressure capable of penetrating the surface of an otherwise tough material.

That?s why a micro fine thread that is twice as fine as silk and a 100 times finer than a human hair, in an otherwise soft towel will scratch your paint. And the same reason a mosquito can penetrate a rhino hide with its proboscis (stinger).

It should be no different from any other polymer surface (i.e. urathane clear coat) as far as washing, drying, and etc.
 
ronkh said:
If I recall correctly, the stuff costs around 175.00. That's just for the sealant for 1 car.

No you won't be able to do any correction once it's been applied. So it better be perfect before you put it on.
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Dr. D assured me that the surface coating should resist swirling more then clear-coat and that it is fully polishable.
 
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