Menzerna FMJ

BillNorth said:
But I find that I am getting different results from the vast majority of posters on the site.
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Thats why i'm looking forward to it. What are you planning on prepping it with, or are you going to apply it alone?
 
L33 said:
Thats why i'm looking forward to it. What are you planning on prepping it with, or are you going to apply it alone?
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I'll do a wash, clay, AIO via PC, and then FMJ by hand as per the manufacturers instructions.
 
BillNorth said:
I don't mean to come off like a p#ick, or know-it-all. My reviews are just that, one opinion. But I find that I am getting different results from the vast majority of posters on the site. A little frustrating I guess. There was a time when my experiences were the same as the other forum members.
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I hear you Bill. Some of the product reviews just recently have been so varied in their results and lacking in detail, including application, that it is very difficult put them into any context. I'm super busy with work but in a few weeks I plan to buy some of the latest "gotta have" wonder LSP's that have some people wetting their pants and test them side by side with Zaino, Klasse and Souveran.



I'll look for the results of your FMJ test with interest and I'll post my comparative results as soon as I get caught up with work and can spend some quality time testing a few products.
 
SilvaBimma said:
Why would they create a kit that doesn't correctly?
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A few months back Anthony O. was reporting his FMJ experiences and SOME posts were discussing problems with the glaze or applying the glaze...something like that...it's been a few months.



"Why would they create a kit that doesn't correctly?"

:nixweiss I don't know, that's what I was trying to find out.;)



Before I spend $40 for FMJ and then more for the glaze I would like to know the pro's and con's first. Thanks anyway. I'll assume you are having no problems.



EDIT: Anthony's Thread "Yet ANOTHER FMJ detail!"
 
I do not have FMJ, but there are many who have made reviews of the product. I've been considering purchasing the kit since you get a whole load of goodies and it seems like something very different. Keep us informed BillNorth! :D
 
I didn't have any problems applying FMJ over the Menzerna glaze. I really like the glaze, right now I have it under S100, and I much prefer it to Vanilla Moose (which seems to be another leghump product on here.)



If I remember correctly, Anthony was discussing removal issues with the glaze, not bonding issues with FMJ.



FMJ itself was excellent for the short time I used it (three months or so.) Application and removal was easier than anything else I've used. Effortless, really. Initial slickness was great, and looks were nice...not quite the warmth and depth of a pure caranuba, not quite the clear reflective shine of Zaino. Durability was good for at least three months (before I stripped it in favor of something else.)



I didn't like that the amazing intial slickness died off quickly. Also not a fan of Menzerna not having a detail spray to accompany it (which would help rectify the loss of slickness.) I used Z6 on it and didn't like it much. Blackfire's detail spray worked OK. The pink color stained both the white bottle and the MicroFinger PC pad used to apply it (not sure why, but no problems with trim or getting stuck inbetween doors and panels.)



Overall, a pretty nice product. I'd like it a lot more if Menzerna released a spray that could be used to "renew" the slickness. I don't think it's worth $40, so I doubt I'll be buying it again when I run out (but the bottle will last me a LONG time, you hardly use any for a full coat.)
 
I use those MicroFinger applicators also and did stain one because i didn't rinse right after. So after learning that lesson I rinse with water right away and haven't had any problems. FMJ with these pads works great, you only have to apply several drips the pad maybe 5 or so times to complete a car. The microfinger pads really use products efficiently, I use the hand ones and cut them in half.



For foam, you need to dedicate a pad for it. Pretty much impossible to remove it completely, foam sucks it up, black finishing pads and the viking app. I've tried water / soap, washing machine, doesn't really do much.



The price, you'll definitly get 40+ apps out of it, its pretty much fool proof to use. 40 apps out of a ~$40 bottle, it's less than a $1/app. If used properly i see no reason not to get 50+.



If you don't find that you like it at first but want to give it a shot, put it down for a while then come back to it. You may find the easy of use/durability factor compared to other products pulling you back.
 
I got the kit - 70 bucks gets me the FMJ, FPII, Glaze and Auto Wash - two MF applicators, two Viking MF cloths and one MF polishing cloth.
 
to use it yet - still going through my Durgloss Car wash which is my favorite right now - If the hurricane does not make it here by saturday I will give it a whirl ;)...
 
The more I read about this stuff the less I'm inclined to want to spend $40 on it. Sounds like it will do ok, nothing that would definitely knock my socks off and then it will have to take up space on my shelf for a long time because so little should be applied( even if using on many cars) Maybe experimenting with various carnaubas would be a better altenative? I sense a more positive /satisified reaction when folks do that. :nixweiss
 
no doubt about that - but so far in my testing with longevity (my roomate's truck) it's doing great. Alone it's costly but the kit is a great value since you get the FMJ plus three other products and MF's.



The lack of a QD in the kit is a little disheartening becuase they would be offering a complete end to end solution..



If I were a weekend or part-time amateur detailer I would definatley use the FMJ kit as a little goes a long way and you can get fantastic results by hand.
 
groebuck said:
no doubt about that - but so far in my testing with longevity (my roomate's truck) it's doing great. Alone it's costly but the kit is a great value since you get the FMJ plus three other products and MF's.



The lack of a QD in the kit is a little disheartening becuase they would be offering a complete end to end solution..



If I were a weekend or part-time amateur detailer I would definatley use the FMJ kit as a little goes a long way and you can get fantastic results by hand.
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i second that... the kit was only 70 bucks and came with the wash, fp2, ftg, and fmj, plus 3 apps, and 2 towels... great value
 
Applied it directly over a section I polished with FPII and was impressed by the clean look. However, the section with FMJ over AIO was more slick, so I will be adding the AIO step before proceding to FMJ.
 
Whatever works for you but to me sounds like a wasted step IMO (not flaming, just suggesting). If you feel your paint isn't clean enough i would go again with FP2, I wouldn't add an all in one step in between. You have a true polish which has already cleaned the surface. If its your first time i would try FMJ alone.
 
Tried both ways. I agree that no further polishing is needed. The surface conditon was as good as I could have hoped for after FPII, but as I mentioned in the other thread, AIO adds a bit of slickness to the surface. That would be my only reason to use it.



I like it underneath Zaino too.
 
Corey Bit Spank said:
This thread reminds me of the BlackfireII, Wolfgang, and NXT threads. :(
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Well, what, exactly, do you expect? It's a relativley new product, and by all reports, it's easy to use, and looks good after initial application (my experience, as well). Durability is the big question, and since FMJ hasn't been on the market very long, and doesn't have a large user-base, the answer is mostly "I don't know." So yeah, about the only reviews here so far are mostly positive, and mostly talk about application, removal, and appearance. That's just the nature of the beast. New products tend to get more attention from forum threads, well, because they're new. That's normal. The reviews aren't always in-depth . . . also very normal, and expected; users haven't had enough experience with the product to provide anything more than a cursory "looks great, easy-to-use" type of review.



So, take any review on Autopia for exactly what it's worth: subjective personal opinion. If you think a review sounds "gushing", then ignore it, and look for the reviews that don't gush. Or, you could trade something of yours for a couple of ounces of FMJ from a fellow Autopian, try it for yourself, then draw your own conclusions.



As bad as the "hype" threads have been, the "backlash" threads are just as annoying, IMO. The way things have been going lately, any good review is labeled "hype", and any bad review, "bashing". With all the drama, it's a wonder anyone's car ever gets waxed. :rolleyes:



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