I finally have the almighty Zaino

So, Z5 doesn't require any cure time? Or does it...? Its going on a relatively swirl free car so I don't imagine it will need a lot of Z5. I would like to see how that works out though. Can I just hit it with Z2 the same day I use Z5 or will I need ZFX for each in order to do that?
 
Z5 and Z2 both require a 24 hour cure time if used with Z1 or after that. If you mix ZFX with some Z, you can do 3 coats in a day, if not Z2/Z5, only once in 24 hours.
 
Think of Z2 and Z5 as interchangeable and completely identical with the proviso that Z5 has mild swirl hiding ability and Z2 is more optically clear so won't hide any swirls if you have them but may appear more glossy than Z5. That's it. You probably can just use Z2 if you don't have swirls.



Both are used like your UPP or SG. Apply, wait to dry, buff off, then let cure for 24 hours before another layer. Exact same thing as your UPP or SG. Only that you need to use apply Z1 immediately before you apply your first layer of Z5 or Z2. After first layer, you can apply exclusively Z2 or Z5 daily, alternate layers of Z2 and Z5 each day, etc. whatever you want as they are basically the same. Just top with Z2 as the last layer since it is supposed to be the best looking.



If you have ZFX, don't have to wait 24 hours for curing as it is cured by the time you buff off so can apply next layer immediately up to 3 layers/day.



Need to use another application of Z1 before Z2 or Z5 after every 6 layers of Z2 or Z5.
 
I was going to include the tips and tricks sheet Sal sent along with my order. But my judgement advised me not to. You are Jngbrdman, the #1 posting person on the forum and been around for a while, that has to say something about knowledge.



I basically learned the whole Zaino process well before I actually got any Zaino product.
 
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Hehe, sorry....couldn't resist that one! :D :D
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heh heh heh... you are really enjoying this, aren't you? :p lol



I've read the other threads out there. I'm sure that I'll figure it out just fine. I'm just used to products where application methods may vary and I know that Zaino is something of a system that pretty much has one way of doing it. I figured as long as I had so many expert Zaino users' attention then I'd pick your brain. :xyxthumbs I'm abusing the thread I guess. lol Trust me, I've got the threads I need already downloaded and printed out and they are sitting in my 'classified' Zaino folder in my garage. ;)
 
Hehe, yeah, I'm sure you're gonna be fine.



It's just that it's not everyday that I see someone with your level of knowledge and experience asking Q's instead of answering them! :)
 
Well, what can I say..? I had to return the brain with the badge when I left the moderators. Maybe I should change my name to "Scarecrow" since I obviously don't have a brain anymore. :lol
 
Any word on when the big comparo is going to happen? Oh, BTW, make sure to spritz the applicator with Z6 to apply thinner layers and to use Z6 between layers. This is to follow the official Zaino recommendations for the max effect. Just like you could use Sonus High Gloss Acrylic Spritz between Klasse layers!
 
Well, I'm going to wait till Jason sends me the ZFX I guess before I start. Probably not for another week and a half. I would do it sooner but business is good and next week is already booked. next Saturday is open though, so hopefully then. :xyxthumbs
 
Jngr, don't let folks scare you off about Zaino. I discovered Z before I discovered Autopia. Read the instructions. Followed the instructions. No "mysterious cabal initiation rites" required. It's a good product with excellent results, and dang if I can figure out why folks make it sound so complicated.



BTW, want me to send you some ZFX pronto? (But, seriously, with your high temps and low RH, I really don't know that you'll need ZFX. Have you tried talking to Sal?)
 
Jngrbrdman said:
Well, I'm going to wait till Jason sends me the ZFX I guess before I start. Probably not for another week and a half. I would do it sooner but business is good and next week is already booked. next Saturday is open though, so hopefully then. :xyxthumbs
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Does that mean you will be applying all 3 layers in one day? In those hot and dry conditions you describe, with ZFX, you could probably start buffing off right after you finish applying! Though you would probably only save yourself 10-20 minutes or so as I doubt it would take that much longer to dry if not using ZFX in your weather conditions.



In January up here, I had to use ZFX or I was toast. Otherwise, I might have had to let it dry for 3-4 hours. It was 45 degrees or so and drizzling outside and you could see my breath. With ZFX, I was able to apply 3 layers in about 3.5 hours. And that's with QDing between layers with Z6.
 
I'll still have to do one layer at a time because I can't do three layers of UPP or SG in one day so why do it with the Zaino. I'll just apply them all in turn. It will probably be a Thursday, Friday, Saturday kind of thing since those are the only three days I have in a row that I can work on it. We'll see how it goes. It will be one layer a day regardless of if I use ZFX or not.
 
Jngrbrdman said:
It will be one layer a day regardless of if I use ZFX or not.
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Okay, but then you would probably only save 10-20 minutes over if you had used Z1. Regardless, use ZFX on the first coat instead of Z1, then on the following days, use Z2/Z5 by itself without ZFX just to comment on the increased time for drying?
 
There is no reason to make this experiment any more complicated. I wouldn't even throw Zfx into the equation. The weather conditions will make the dry time inconsequential. Applying thin coats will let the stuff dry quickly, even with the Z-1/Z-2(or Z-5) layer. My bet is that it will be dry in an hour or so and ready to be buffed off.
 
Lynn said:
... I discovered Z before I discovered Autopia. Read the instructions. Followed the instructions. No "mysterious cabal initiation rites" required. It's a good product with excellent results, and dang if I can figure out why folks make it sound so complicated. ... Have you tried talking to Sal?
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:bow Exactly what I wanted to say.
 
The SG will have to dry for 45 minues anyway. I figure I'll do the areas with Zaino first and then do the UPP and SG areas last. By the time its time to buff off the SG I'm sure the Zaino will be dry. I'm going to post a before picture and then an after picture after the 3 layers are on. If there isn't a difference you can see or feel after 3 layers then I'll be surprised. Especially if they are compared side by side. I may send my pictures to Jason so he can do his cool before/after layouts on the pics. Those are cool looking. I'm really looking forward to it. :xyxthumbs
 
Not yet. I've had a rush of business lately and haven't been able to break away to start my testing. I'm going to polish down the test subject next week in preperation for the big test. Jason sent me some ZFX (thanks again dood!) and I'll be getting some results soon. I'll keep ya'll posted. :bigups
 
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