How "I" wash cars.......

justin30513 said:
......I should have a video of this up by Thursday.
Good tips Justin! Your video should help a lot of members who haven't used a no-rinse wash yet, and also help others refine their techniques.
 
Thanks. I will be busy as heck this week. Highs in the 50's after a week of snow and teens. Plus, I've gotta get ready for Detail Fest in FL!



But I'll find time some how!
 
Justin,



Are you going to be making any video's while at the AG Detail Fest? If you're already going to be doing demonstrations there, might be a good time to do some video work. Just a thought (although, you've probably already thought of it :) ).
 
justin30513 said:
Well first of all, I'm washing and drying a section at a time them I'm done. I don't have to come back. Then, I'm saving water which means I will do more vehicles and not have to spend time filling up my tank.



Are you not open to new ideas?



Of course i'm open to new ideas, thats not what i was trying to get at. Just a simple question. It seems like you would bucket wash if you're out there doing this professionaly. Rinsless washes make me think of the hobbyist in his garage, not a pro.
 
TrueDetailer said:
Of course i'm open to new ideas, thats not what i was trying to get at. Just a simple question. It seems like you would bucket wash if you're out there doing this professionaly. Rinsless washes make me think of the hobbyist in his garage, not a pro.





Uh oh... :argue
 
TrueDetailer said:
Of course i'm open to new ideas, thats not what i was trying to get at. Just a simple question. It seems like you would bucket wash if you're out there doing this professionaly. Rinsless washes make me think of the hobbyist in his garage, not a pro.

Would you consider the person on this site with the most post a hobbyist since he uses rinseless washes a majority of the time?
 
TrueDetailer said:
Of course i'm open to new ideas, thats not what i was trying to get at. Just a simple question. It seems like you would bucket wash if you're out there doing this professionaly. Rinsless washes make me think of the hobbyist in his garage, not a pro.



Lots of professionals use rinseless washes. It's faster, doesn't mar, saves water, and all that good stuff. Look at Scottwax and his details. They are immaculate. And he uses ONR. Whether or not one uses rinseless washes has no bearing on the skill of the detailer.
 
For the truly mobile detailers, the biggest advantage of a rinseless wash, in my mind,would be saving water and not being responsible for waste rinse water. Like justin said, he saves water by using a rinseless wash and also, he does not have to suck up any waste water ( I know there is waste water since Justin uses a pressure washer, but at long at it is a small amount that will evaporate on the ground and will not make its way to a storm drain, he is in clear when it comes to the Federal EPA water act).



Kenney
 
Russecu said:
Would you consider the person on this site with the most post a hobbyist since he uses rinseless washes a majority of the time?





what the hell does a post count have to do with anything?





Rinsless wash to me is a hobbyist thing, i would think if you're out there doing this everyday than a bucket wash would be more time efficent. But take it as you will, i'm not attatcking the mans skill. Seems i'm the only one to stray from the gee thanks for the time saving tips replies and offer my real opinion on the thread. Whats the big deal, don't take it personaly.



mikebai1990 said:
Lots of professionals use rinseless washes. It's faster, doesn't mar, saves water, and all that good stuff.



Bucket washing done correctly is just as effective at maintaining a mar free finsih.



I can't see doing one section at a time with a spray bottle and rag being much faster than bucket washing.



I guess the only thing it has on bucket washing is saving water. Water usage is the last thing on my mind when i'm out there detailing.



Don't take it personal thats just my 2 cents.
 
TrueDetailer said:
Of course i'm open to new ideas, thats not what i was trying to get at. Just a simple question. It seems like you would bucket wash if you're out there doing this professionaly. Rinsless washes make me think of the hobbyist in his garage, not a pro.





I've been in the mobile business for 17 years (first 5 were part time). I started using rinseless products about a year ago. Initially it was out of curiousity. It took a while for me to get comfortable with it and fast enough that I could even consider using it all the time. I've been using it on almost every customer car now and I hate when I have to pull out my pressure washer or hose setup. One of the benefits is being able to clean in cold temperatures. Some are blessed with no sub freezing winters. We usually don't have too many. Last 2-3 week though I've been starting in temperature as low as 15 and most are in the middle 20's. Without rinseless (I heat my water too), I'd have been out of work a lot of days. While many hobbyist use it, there are quite a few full timers out there using it. There are some downsides. If you are very fast to start with you will initially probably slow down. I went from 20-45 minutes on washes to 30-60 minutes initially. I'm still not quite as fast but I'm close. It's more costly for rinseless per car than most soaps. The benefits are I've felt the waxes / sealants last longer, cars look better, ability to keep working in colder temperatures, less problems with spotting in the sun (unless you filter already). Heck after cleaning over 20,000 cars the normal way, doing something different is a blessing in itself :)
 
TrueDetailer said:
Of course i'm open to new ideas, thats not what i was trying to get at. Just a simple question. It seems like you would bucket wash if you're out there doing this professionaly. Rinsless washes make me think of the hobbyist in his garage, not a pro.



So that's what makes a pro. Bucket washing. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm........



Oh Scottwax!!!



I'm glad it's not how much one makes at his profession or how successful he's been at getting customers.



How do I always attract this turmoil?



LOL
 
justin30513 said:
So that's what makes a pro. Bucket washing. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm........



Oh Scottwax!!!



I'm glad it's not how much one makes at his profession or how successful he's been at getting customers.



How do I always attract this turmoil?



LOL



You don't like my 2 cents so you have to be a smartass? You sould like a little *****.





i give my 2 cents and all you forum tought detailers jump my case?
 
Let's not get this thread off topic. I didn't mean to start an argument (I'm sure the others aren't either), and I was giving my opinion just like you. If you like rinse car washes, that's fine. To be honest, I myself don't use a rinseless car wash. Not because I don't like it, but because I have financial restraints when I buy my products. But I just hope that you understand many professional detailers use rinseless car washes and it bears no indication of how skilled one is at detailing.



Also, rinseless car washes, at least from what I've heard, definitely save time. It's essentially a wipe on and wipe off process. With rinse washing, you need to first spray off dirt, use 2 buckets, and constantly worry about getting the particles off of the wash media you are using. Then you have to rinse off, and take at least another 15-20 minutes to dry the car, again making sure you aren't marring. Detailers like Scottwax or Justin don't choose use rinseless washes for no reason. They have said that there are noticeable time savings by using products like ONR and QEW, and that is probably one of their main incentives to use rinseless wash products.
 
TrueDetailer said:
You don't like my 2 cents so you have to be a smartass? You sould like a little *****.





i give my 2 cents and all you forum tought detailers jump my case?



Let's all take a breath shall we??????? :ignore
 
TrueDetailer said:
what the hell does a post count have to do with anything?





Rinsless wash to me is a hobbyist thing, i would think if you're out there doing this everyday than a bucket wash would be more time efficent. But take it as you will, i'm not attatcking the mans skill. Seems i'm the only one to stray from the gee thanks for the time saving tips replies and offer my real opinion on the thread. Whats the big deal, don't take it personaly.







Bucket washing done correctly is just as effective at maintaining a mar free finsih.



I can't see doing one section at a time with a spray bottle and rag being much faster than bucket washing.



I guess the only thing it has on bucket washing is saving water. Water usage is the last thing on my mind when i'm out there detailing.



Don't take it personal thats just my 2 cents.

I was not implying that just post count implies knowledge I was talking about Scottwax which I would consider a pro. I did not say that anyones opinion is not welcome we all have our opinions.:) I was just implying that the satement about people who use rinseless washes are not pros. Which is an incorrect statement. I for one am not a pro but I know what is quickest for me and I learn from the pros to improve my knowledge and get timesaving tips.
 
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