Finally used my sample of the new Optimum Coating

wannafbody said:
These type products generally sell for over $1000 an application. It's gonna have a very small potential market. This won't appeal to leasers.
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Not really. Some(many) are much less. The actual cost of the product isn't all that much more that any other high end sealant. I think it would be a great sell to someone that leases their vehicle by offering a true product that will last the term of their lease agreement. There's tons of dealer sealant/protection plans that are marketed to people that lease.
 
I just got off the phone with Dr. G (Optimum founder). I had back surgery two weeks ago and I had informed Dr. G that I was going under the knife some time ago. He actually called me to check to see how I was doing.



I've never met him in person but I have talked to him via email and phone numerous times. I know this has nothing to do with the coating that this thread is dedicated but his phone call to me today just goes to show you what kind of a guy he is. It's just another reason I believe in what he is doing at Optimum.
 
dervdave said:
To be honest Scott are there any other benefits other than extra durability over Opti-Seal which itself last a hell of a long time and appears to be easier to apply and remove ?
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Washing my car is noticably easier. The change in beading was remarkable. No matter what I used on my car, the beading was good but never the tight round beads that you get on freshly waxed newer paint. The paint on my car is going on 8 years old and it has been outside 24/7 for at least the last 14 months and 30,000 miles of driving. The way it beads now, you'd think I had a fresh paint job.



I am not sure what the benefit would be to the typical autopian who likes to regularly polish, wax or seal their finish. If you have an older car though, it seems that at least initially, the coating rejuvinates the paint. What I want to see is how long the tight beading, slickness and great water shedding ability lasts. I would feel very confident in saying as long as my car's paint continues to respond like it does in the video and beads like it does in the pictures, that the coating is still presesnt and giving my paint protection.
 
Greg Nichols said:
If this product can protect the surface from wash induced scratches then its promising, if not its just a long lasting coating that will be removed when I polish the car again.



Is this product going to be sold to dealerships?



Cheers,

GREG
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My understanding is that Optimum will license distributors who will then market the product. My guess is that it would make sense for those distributors to visit car dealerships. The biggest advantage I can see to car dealers using this product is that the application method means their detailing monkey's won't be using buffers on new cars. Of course, for me, that is a huge disadvantage. :grinno:
 
Scott, did you put Opti-Coating on your wheels also? I am just wondering if it would make brake dust easy to remove.
 
bert31 said:
Scott, did you put Opti-Coating on your wheels also? I am just wondering if it would make brake dust easy to remove.
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Yes, I put it on my wheels. I have ceramic brake pads so I don't have a dusting problem to worry about. ;)



What very little dust built up over 10 days blasted right off with the high pressure wand. How well it does on cars with heavy brake dust, I am going to find out. I have a customer with a brand new black Mercedes CLS550 whose wheels I am going to apply the coating on when I clean it this Saturday.
 
Scottwax said:
Washing my car is noticably easier. The change in beading was remarkable. No matter what I used on my car, the beading was good but never the tight round beads that you get on freshly waxed newer paint. The paint on my car is going on 8 years old and it has been outside 24/7 for at least the last 14 months and 30,000 miles of driving. The way it beads now, you'd think I had a fresh paint job.
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That's strange. Having used 476 & DG105 on paint that is 8 years old (and more), I get very tight and tall beads. I haven't experienced the age of the paint affecting the beading, it's always been based on the condition and type of lsp versus the paint. You have obviously worked on waaaayyyy more cars than I have though.
 
Scottwax said:
The biggest advantage I can see to car dealers using this product is that the application method means their detailing monkey's won't be using buffers on new cars. Of course, for me, that is a huge disadvantage. :grinno:
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Oh come on Scott, you know as well as I do that the dealers swirl the cars to hell long before they get to the pre-delivery "buffing". Your job is secure. All they need is that one wash before they put this coating on to ensure your livelihood.
 
blk45 said:
That's strange. Having used 476 & DG105 on paint that is 8 years old (and more), I get very tight and tall beads. I haven't experienced the age of the paint affecting the beading, it's always been based on the condition and type of lsp versus the paint. You have obviously worked on waaaayyyy more cars than I have though.
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My Accord got wrecked in 2000, so the original paint was 10 years old. The difference in beading was very obvious on the repainted front end vs the original paint. I always used the same LSP. Even with a known great beading product like Meguiars #16, the paint beaded better on the repainted areas. Maybe it makes a difference that from 1995 on, my Accord sat outside 24/7. :nixweiss



I noticed it with my 626 to a lesser extent when the hood and left front fender were repainted, probably because the original paint was only 6 years old.
 
bert31 said:
Off the subject but what brand do you use?
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Pro Stop Ceramics I got at Pep Boys. Better brake feel than the stock pads, stops better too. Decent when cold but like race brakes they are even better when you get a little heat in them.
 
Scottwax said:
My Accord got wrecked in 2000, so the original paint was 10 years old. The difference in beading was very obvious on the repainted front end vs the original paint. I always used the same LSP. Even with a known great beading product like Meguiars #16, the paint beaded better on the repainted areas. Maybe it makes a difference that from 1995 on, my Accord sat outside 24/7. :nixweiss



I noticed it with my 626 to a lesser extent when the hood and left front fender were repainted, probably because the original paint was only 6 years old.
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I'll have to pay close attention the next time I work on a car that has a partial repaint.
 
Certain older, more permeable paints are very sensitive to this. I've encountered a paint where almost all LSPs were powerless. 885, #16, Z2 Pro, 1000P lasted around 4 weeks on it. It looked very good (apart from 2 places where checking has already begun); so the significantly reduced durability was definitely odd. The 2 most durable products on it were the Victoria Wax Cruising, which is an acrylic/carnauba blend and is discontinued, and Opti-Seal. I definitely want to try a full acrylic attack on it or even better, a nice coating.
 
Scottwax said:
My Accord got wrecked in 2000, so the original paint was 10 years old. The difference in beading was very obvious on the repainted front end vs the original paint...
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Bence said:
Certain older, more permeable paints are very sensitive to this...
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Yeah, that makes sense. Newer paint is gonna have a lot fewer micro-fissures/etc.



I finally had to have a few areas on the XJS repainted and it'll be interesting to compare how the oe/repainted areas differ in this regard. I'd expect quite a difference as the oe ss paint is getting pretty old and has been through a lot (and is even doing the lacquer-cracking thing in a few places. Sigh..."what a drag it is getting old...").
 
bert31 said:
Scott, did you put Opti-Coating on your wheels also? I am just wondering if it would make brake dust easy to remove.
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This is a little video I shot. The coating is on the wheels. The pressure washer is at 1000 psi and the wheel was not pre treated with any cleaners.

We apply the coating to headlights after we sand and polish them at our shop. Just another thing the professional can upsell



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I would love this for windows and rims but Im just fine with Zaino, Opti-Seal or Wolfgang. There is no way humanly possible I could go more than 2 weeks without applying something to my car.
 
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