Finally used my sample of the new Optimum Coating

So what do you have to do, register with them to get this stuff when it's released?

Hey Scott what does it say about the curing time? Can you layer it or would that be counter productive? I guess if it builds up to 2 mils you probably would not want to layer it? I wonder of Temp when applied matters etc. Interesting product. I can't wait to hear more. Please keep us posted.
 
This is a very different product than X Kote, Vivilon or Presto, it is not meant to correct or build, it is designed to protect. Layering is not needed, but can be done(Not 2mils, 2 microns per coat, huge difference). Yes it dose fill and correct minor imperfections but that is not its purpose.



Application requires speed, and a keen eye(cure speed varies with humidity level) to prevent mistakes(or you will be polishing the car, as even acetone will not remove it, unfortunatluy I know). Once you get teh hang of it it takes no longer than opti seal to apply, with 1oz covering a normal sedan.



The last news I got from Optimum, was that tose using the product will buy it direct from Optimum, and sign a waiver(the product is safe to use and safe for the paint, but if you apply too much you are in for a lot of work), it will not be available from distributors.



I have applied the product to a single stage red painted transport truck, and now with over 100000 miles since application it still beads like day 1, and the only maintenecne the truck gets is going througha commercial truck wash every 2 weeks.
 
looks great Scott - good to see more about this product.



This sounds like a great pro product, selling a premium product to customers that want a low maintenance, highly durable product, and give them a good upsell. I think I'd get bored watching this for 2 years on my cars though :lol:
 
Bigpikle said:
This sounds like a great pro product, selling a premium product to customers that want a low maintenance, highly durable product, and give them a good upsell. I think I'd get bored watching this for 2 years on my cars though :lol:
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I don't think it will be that easy for some. There are a lot of these type of products with claims such as this. Those products don't last and aren't worth the money. Some people might think of this as just that....an upsell, and not only an upsell but an upsell thats going to be BS. I would love to try this stuff out, I have a client with an F250 that is rediculously dirty all the time. I wax it and then the next week there is nothing left cause the thing is always caked in mud. I would love to put this on the Ford and see how it works, plus it would make my life easier with water sheeting or beeding up not puddling. It is hell to dry this thing when water just sits there.



If you can upsell you will have to charge what ever you charge for waxing and multiply it by 12 months cause you wont be waxing for a while. LOL



Thanks for the info Scott, I will be checking this thread often
 
MobileJay said:
...an upsell thats going to be BS.
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Not sure if you were talking about you or the customer thinking it'd be an upsell that is BS, but I know that some of the testers are reporting at least 3 years of protection with no signs of the coating wearing down/away.
 
mshu7 said:
Not sure if you were talking about you or the customer thinking it'd be an upsell that is BS, but I know that some of the testers are reporting at least 3 years of protection with no signs of the coating wearing down/away.
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No no, not at all. I was thinking the clients you are trying to sell this to thinking this, not myself.
 
Gotcha!



If I remember correctly, Dr. G or Anthony Orosco said there may be some type of warranty paperwork for the customer that comes with the coating when it's mailed to you.
 
honestly, whats the point? so you sell a coating that will protect the car for 3 years...you just lost out on at least 2.5 years worth of business from that customer.



Are you going to charge the customer over $1000 for this coating?

what about the cars that are washed at the local scratch tub???

what if the customer gets in an accident, reapply for free or recharge?

what if client wants to have the car polished to bring back the shine, reapply and charge another huge amount?

or how about if the client wants to get rid of the scratching and needs wetsanding to remove the bird bomb etching, water spotting, or fading that will happen...



I am just playing devils advocate here, but is there really a market for this type of product on a reasonable level? besides the garage queen, high end cars that are hardly ever driven?



I haven't looked into the product too deeply, but it kinda sounds like a promise like the dealer says "never wax your car again for 5 years" - you know, the one we all make fun of and know is a joke...
 
Conan777 said:
So what do you have to do, register with them to get this stuff when it's released?

Hey Scott what does it say about the curing time? Can you layer it or would that be counter productive? I guess if it builds up to 2 mils you probably would not want to layer it? I wonder of Temp when applied matters etc. Interesting product. I can't wait to hear more. Please keep us posted.
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You would have to contact Optimum about what they are looking for to show you detail professionally. It isn't going to be cheap and 2 oz will only be enough for 2-4 vehicles depending on the size.



The durability is supposed to be outstanding so I am not sure how many here would actually use it for personal use. Most of use can't resist trying whatever the new hotness is or applying whatever wax or sealant we use very often. Of course, if you polish your car out, this would make an excellent base for, oh, the next 3 years! :xyxthumbs



I believe the hold-up on releasing the product is that there doesn't seem to be one single application method that those testing it for a long time can agree on. It can be pretty easy to apply but if you leave a thick spot somewhere that doesn't clear out, you WILL have to polish through it.
 
toyotaguy said:
honestly, whats the point? so you sell a coating that will protect the car for 3 years...you just lost out on at least 2.5 years worth of business from that customer.
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I have a few customers I see when they first lease their vehicle and then 2-3 years later when they are going to turn it in. Why not make more the first time I see it? Ought to be a good upsell to those customers.



For me, it will be a good upsell to my weekly wash customers. Most of the current ones I have don't keep on on waxing as much as they should anyway.



Are you going to charge the customer over $1000 for this coating?
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I think it would be at least $200 for a small vehicle, not including any necessary polishing.



what about the cars that are washed at the local scratch tub???
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Curious about that myself. I'm going to put it on my brother's Odyssey and see how it holds up to the harsh detergents and if the coating is hard enough to resist swirls.



what if the customer gets in an accident, reapply for free or recharge?
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I guess it would depend on how much of the car was damaged and repainted. If it is just a bumper or a fender, maybe add $25 to a wash charge. Honda doesn't repaint your car for free if you wreck it, right?



what if client wants to have the car polished to bring back the shine, reapply and charge another huge amount?
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My understanding is that at the 3 year point, the shine isn't dropping off.



or how about if the client wants to get rid of the scratching and needs wetsanding to remove the bird bomb etching, water spotting, or fading that will happen...
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This product is supposed to be highly resistant to bird bomb etching and should offer at least some resistance to minor marring or scuffing.



Obviously, if you have to cut through the coating to remove defects you will have to apply it again. I guess it would depend on exactly why the work needs to be done. If it can be directly attributed to the coating not offering enough reasonable protection (it isn't going to stand up to the car being keyed I don't think) then I'd take care of it for free.



I am just playing devils advocate here, but is there really a market for this type of product on a reasonable level? besides the garage queen, high end cars that are hardly ever driven?
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I think there is a pretty good market for sealants/coatings of this type. Car dealers are making a killiing selling sealant packages, might as well get in on that too. It is going to be the soccer mom, salesman, etc who would be interested in a durable coating that they don't have to worry about again for a few years.
 
The product sounds very interesting , but what the point of it ??



Where I live in bad road salt ect... It eats through steel and clear coat for gods sake. I highly doubt it will be more durable than that. Also to have a product so fragile to work with that you have to sign a wavier .



Wonder who they are trying to market it to ?
 
I've had it on my hood for 7-8 months now and it still looks like the first day. I clayed the car a couple weeks ago and hardly anything came off the hood. It definitely adds protection and resists minor marring because I polished the whole car before I put it on my hood and although the hood has a few marks, it is NOTHING like the rest of the paint. I plan on removing my rims, cleaning them thoroughly and putting it on them. I also have tried it on glass and plastic lenses with great results. As far as who it's marketed to...I think the people who only get annual details, those who hate the brake dust on their wheels, and anyone who wants one more layer between there paint and the elements will benefit.
 
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