Best QD

MDRX8 said:
Have you ever used a polymer sealant (famous for a static finish) and felt the microfiber cloth cling to the finish of the car? A lot of QD's break this bond. Not just FK 425....
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It is mostly the microfiber towel that causes most of the static on the paint when removing LSPs. Try it with a soft cotton towel and you will find the "static cling" alot less.



I too use #425 and also find the dust repellancy claims favorable when in comparison to other QD's (also use S&G, UGE, Mothers Showtime, Adams etc.)



Another QD that also find to repell dust is Zaino Z8.



FWIW, If you look at Finish Kares website and click to view the label for #425 you can see their anti-static patent number. It is also on the back of the bottle.



patent# 5,300,141



http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...L&s1=5300141.WKU.&OS=PN/5300141&RS=PN/5300141



In any case most all the QD's mentioned in this thread are more than good enough.



take care
 
Spilchy said:
Nice find.



There you go Miami_Vice, not really such a myth.
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myth plausable...... :spot I dont care what they claim i want pictures of two QD compared side by side. Sorry for being an A-hole but you guy's can't be that gullable. :sosad
 
I'm with you MV. I'd like to hear from someone that they're actually observing less dust or I can just keep on with my QS and leave my money in my pocket. I have a bunch of FOTM stuff in my storage shed that was either so-so or not really different from anything else available. Prove this product wrong!:)
 
Why is it hard to believe that there is less dust when there is evidence to the point of having a patent for the anti-static component? It's not like it's a marketing ploy. Why patent it then?



If you don't like dust, Eagle One WAUD repels dust too. They don't advertise it, but it's one of the benefits. It's not a QD but applied and removed the same way. You can further dilute it with distilled water and make it a QD. I believe the Autopian Luster had done this for a while.
 
Spilchy said:
Why is it hard to believe that there is less dust when there is evidence to the point of having a patent for the anti-static component? It's not like it's a marketing ploy. Why patent it then?
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I'm sure you know how many claims there are for products that only need to be applied once every ** months.



** - Insert number of months claim here.
 
I have already stated that i find much less dust accumulation in my last post in this thread. Not being gullable, just noting from experience with the product. No need to knock it if u haven't tried it. Us who use #425 don't need to defend it either, just use what you like.
 
Yeah but you're hearing people who are claimimg less dust attraction and others who are using it on TV's and electronics and noticing less dust attraction. So what's the big deal? Why use words like "myth" in a large bold format and get all panty bunched over #425?



Again, why patent the anti-static component?
 
mg, I'm not knocking your claim but there are at least a couple dozen people here that have used this product. I'm not knocking the product either but how come you're the only one that I can find that has actually posted that there is some reduced static?
 
WHERE NOT HERE TO PUT THE product down. I did try a sample of it & it did the same thing the Adams QD did which had awesome cleaning ability & gloss. But all i want is pictures of it next to another QD. We all have pics of waxes, sealant, etc.. but why not the FK1 #425 compared to a leading QD :nixweiss Screw the patent thing.. Pictures speak for themselves. I did a MF review where the Pinnacle Micro rejuvenator claimed something & the micro-restorer another. & then compared them side by side with the Charlis soap & BOMMMMMM myth Busted. The charlie soap gave me the same results with a softer feel. :chuckle: & ia had pictures to prove it. :p
 
SpoiledMan said:
I'm not knocking the product either but how come you're the only one that I can find that has actually posted that there is some reduced static?
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From BillD:



I'm extremely enthusiastic about my newly acquired FK 425. A true gem in the world of detailing products. My car is spit-shined with Souveran and I see nothing detrimental about using 425 on it. I think the result of the two is fantastic. I still can't get over the true anti static properties of this product!......I'm probably not as perceptive as others but I don't see a change in the appearance of my finish caused by the FK 425.



...I like the whole package: looks, slickness, light touch up ability, anti static.



From tdekany



I second the FK anti static products.



I'm sure other users like Bence or GSRStilez have their opinions too and can comment.



I've been reading here and on DC and people LOVE their #425 not to mention the incredible shots of cars with #2180, Pink Wax and wiped down with #425. Not to mention FX100 thrown in the mix.
 
Thanks Spilch! I don't know why my search didn't turn up with those posts but.....



I'm not on a witch hunt at all. I'm just tired of unsubstantiated claims.;)
 
SpoiledMan, I am sure i have seen others posting about the anti static nature of the product so maybe if not here then definitely in other forums. As to why or why *not* to patent....who knows really. Seems FK1 thought that their claim was a significant one at the time to go get a patent to their claim which btw looks to be over a decade ago.



Some companies use the term patented in their products but provide no patent #. Some say patent pending so who knows what that really means. There is also the significant time cost that can come with applying and filing for a patent which can take years and can go into the tens of thousands of $$$. So depending on the company especially if they are a smaller one, it may not really be beneficial to do this process as products and technology are constantly changing.



Miami_vice, I will try and get pictures just for you my man :xyxthumbs for comparison but although pictures do look nice, they do not tell the whole story. I am sure i would get an opposite opinion from others about what the pics won't provide. But provided weather and time i will try and post up comparison QD pics.



sorry if i went a bit off topic :nervous:
 
Spilchy said:
Fear not Stewie, you can try all of the items mentioned here in a sample package:



http://www.fk1usa.com/products-consumer.htm



Use the atopia discount and get an extra 9.99% off



Wallet? Intact! :hifive:
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Yea I saw that... I might jump on it soon. I dont need 3 of the items in the package though...I think I will def get the #425 QD and maybe one of their sealants. I still have 85% of my Souveran Paste wax left....definetlylove it and want to use it all before even trying to buy another nuba wax. The way everyone talks about 425, I think it will compliment my souveran nicely.
 
Spilchy said:
Why is it hard to believe that there is less dust when there is evidence to the point of having a patent for the anti-static component? It's not like it's a marketing ploy. Why patent it then?



If you don't like dust, Eagle One WAUD repels dust too. They don't advertise it, but it's one of the benefits. It's not a QD but applied and removed the same way. You can further dilute it with distilled water and make it a QD. I believe the Autopian Luster had done this for a while.
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:2thumbs: Yup, a lot of QDs and spray waxes repel dust without advertising, including Mothers FX, too. Therefore if you compare 425 with another "leading QD" such as Mothers FX or Adams DS, chances are you will find similar results because BOTH ARE ANTI-STATIC! Miami--if you want more proof that Adam's DS is anti-static, PM me.



I don't find it so hard to believe that anti-static additives are a truth...all you have to do is learn a little about the physics and chemistry of it to understand how perfectly plausible it is. It won't eliminate dust settling on the car, but it can certainly reduce it.



And Miami, a big difference between the Adams DS and the 425 is that the latter actually leaves quite a bit of protection, while the DS lasts maybe a day or two.
 
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