Dual Polymer Waterless wash

TroyScherer said:
I have a Tri-Polymer waterless wash if anyone want to try it. So it has to be better than just a dual polymer by at least one.



Oh, and it's called: Blackfire Waterless wash......
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Oh good point. Tri polymers for the win of course

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We may be sitting on gold here
 
theory816 said:
Actually this looks like a very good product and I was surprised by how well the host knows his product(most don't). I also try to ignore the packaging design as it can conceal how well a product works.

Here is why this product looks good:

Its polishes.
What water less car wash do you know have polishing agents? Zero,nada,none. Cars are always getting small scratches and this addresses that problem without having to do serious polishing.

Acrylic Resin.
Wax is OUT. Its old school technology. Sealants are the new technology to protect your car. This however, intrigued me the most, as its an acrylic resin. That's basically liquid acrylic. This should provide a much more durable layer of protection than traditional wax.

Dual Polymer.
One to protect while cleaning(that's the most important part of water less, you can do without all the other bits), one to protect after cleaning that last for months. Now, maybe the second polymer is the acrylic resin im not sure but what I am sure of is that most Water less wash products does not protect your car, it only cleans. Protection after washing is extremely weak to where you can consider it nonexistent, and this product addresses that also. The polymers used in popular water less wash brands is made from soy. This one is made from acrylic resin.

With that said, I have not tried the product yet but it looks extremely promising. Thanks to OP for introducing it.

BTW, if you own a newer model Nissan or Lexus with self healing paint, do not use any solution with abrasives in it or get it polished/detailed. The car only needs a good sealant.
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I see it as 100% hype. Basically, you could use almost any rinseless / waterless products sold by PBMG - and not be able to tell much of a difference in the final result.

I watched the video - and dude threw a bunch of limestone on a wet car. I dunno - that just seems dumb and infomercial like.

I'm not saying this product isn't great, I'm just saying I'm 100% sure it's no better than the plethora of waterless washes PBMG sells that I can make for like 4¢ an ounce.

theory816 said:
You're not going to get a showroom finish with soap and water. ?
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Well, it depends what finish you are starting with. If this finish is pristine, it can be maintained with soap & water (and maybe some LSP).

If the finish is jacked up - you are not going to fix it with a waterless wash.
 
i should compare it to BF RW at QD dilution since that has TRI Polymers :)

I just re-read the thread and it keeps cracking me up- all these responses
 
GearHead_1 said:
Mind if I ask what the original was? I seemed to have misplaced 1988. I'm sure it was a very good year. ;)
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The original was, and still is, Wet Paint. One of the ingredients is kaolin clay so it must be shaken prior to use. When I asked about it on various detailing forums in 2004 I was told by "experts" how it couldn't possibly work, would mar the paint, etc., etc. Of course none had even tried it so I did. They were all wrong and I still use it today.
 
RTexasF said:
The original was, and still is, Wet Paint. One of the ingredients is kaolin clay so it must be shaken prior to use. When I asked about it on various detailing forums in 2004 I was told by "experts" how it couldn't possibly work, would mar the paint, etc., etc. Of course none had even tried it so I did. They were all wrong and I still use it today.
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Kaolin clay has been a component of numerous detailing products over the years, and those products are generally considered to be functionally non-abrasive to most autopaints. E.g., it's used as a "filler" in certain glazes. Very different from having functional abrasives as part of a rinsless/waterless wash....
 
Accumulator said:
Kaolin clay has been a component of numerous detailing products over the years, and those products are generally considered to be functionally non-abrasive to most autopaints. E.g., it's used as a "filler" in certain glazes. Very different from having functional abrasives as part of a rinsless/waterless wash....
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Yes, I'm fully aware of that and wasn't comparing the two brands. All I'm saying is give this Dual Polymer Waterless wash a chance. No one has used it so there's nothing to go on but opinions. I faced that same thing 12 years ago, went against the grain, and found an excellent product. It also made me a good living so sometimes running with the herd isn't the right thing to do.
 
RTexasF said:
Yes, I'm fully aware of that and wasn't comparing the two brands. All I'm saying is give this Dual Polymer Waterless wash a chance. No one has used it so there's nothing to go on but opinions. I faced that same thing 12 years ago, went against the grain, and found an excellent product. It also made me a good living so sometimes running with the herd isn't the right thing to do.
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Just waiting for a report on it.
 
Look what i finally got my hands on
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I'll have to ask him for a better pic of the back, my bad

My buddy remembered this at our club meet last night.
He said he hasn't used it since I gave him some blackfire products but he wanted me to see what I thought...
So im thinking about using my neighbors swirled out black car i used the Natty's Black on recently...tape off some squares on the trunk and see what happens...hoping to get this over with soon but probably not today.
 
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