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Lots of pics too with great write ups. It will help you learn the zaino process and better understand everything.
 
It's all personal preference.



Does ultra durability matter to you? Yea if you're not going to touch your car for six months...does that include any of us here? no ..we just make a big stink about nothing because we can. You can find stuff that looks just as good but might last one month less, oh no...re apply your lsp at 5 months instead of 6..treason!



There's too many good products out there to just limit your self to the Zaino line, it's not the Holy Grail or the huge abundance of other products wouldn't really exist, atleast that's how I feel. That said, it is a good system.
 
xtremekustomz said:
Looking for opinions. Is the Zaino Ultimate Protection Show Car Kit worh the money? Has anyone tried any other products that performed as well?





This is my opinion and mine alone, remember, these subjects are subjective.



Zaino for me was a huge waiste of money and time. I have no idea how they got so popular and why people think they are the "best". Not only did it make my paint look "OK" it also didnt last very long at all. Just for the sake of argument, i always prep my paint before i apply any wax/sealant.



After trying Werkstatt i will never go back to Zaino.
 
My opinion as well, but I greatly prefer the JW products and the Menzerna products....But that is just my opinion.
 
FWIW, after years of Zaino use, I have found the new Duragloss 105 sealant and AW to offer every bit the durability of Zaino and just as nice, if not a nicer look. Much cheaper to boot...win/win for me! :D
 
I'd go a la carte...maybe just some ZAIO and maybe Z2Pro? ZFX?? (geesh it's hard to get out cheap) See if you really like it before investing so much



I'm not so much into boutique car wash and 'special applicators'
 
Honestly I will be detailing the truck alot. I just painted it black and color sanded and have been working on buffing. I'm still trying to figure out the best thing to get the "hologram" look out of the paint. It isn't all that bad but it bothers me. I've had some recommendations on using the Meguiars #9. Also I've been looking at buying a good da polisher. From what I have read alot of people use the Porter Cable. I do have a large air compressor and a da sander. I've seen where you can buy the hookit pads for it and also the polishing pads. Would I be wasting money buying the Porter Cable if I'm doing all my polishing here at my house where the compressor is?
 
An air DA should be fine. Work at getting the paint polished out right before you worry about what LSP (Last Step Product, a wax or sealant) you are going to use.
 
xtremekustomz said:
Honestly I will be detailing the truck alot. I just painted it black and color sanded and have been working on buffing. I'm still trying to figure out the best thing to get the "hologram" look out of the paint. It isn't all that bad but it bothers me. I've had some recommendations on using the Meguiars #9. Also I've been looking at buying a good da polisher. From what I have read alot of people use the Porter Cable. I do have a large air compressor and a da sander. I've seen where you can buy the hookit pads for it and also the polishing pads. Would I be wasting money buying the Porter Cable if I'm doing all my polishing here at my house where the compressor is?



You cannot go wrong with a PC IMHO. #9 has fillers in it so I would avoid using it. It will hide the defects rather than remove them. Menzerna or optimum will be a far better choice to perfect your paint. Definitely concentrate on perfecting the paint to 100% before applying any wax/sealant.



Greg
 
xtremekustomz said:
Honestly I will be detailing the truck alot. I just painted it black and color sanded and have been working on buffing. I'm still trying to figure out the best thing to get the "hologram" look out of the paint. It isn't all that bad but it bothers me



Blackfire's SRC FP (rebottled Menzerna) or Menzerna's P0106FF are unmatched, in my experience. Optimum, Meguiars and Hi-Temp also have excellent polish lines, but they are just a little bit behind of the big M. Menzerna is a lot more expensive for a little bit more gloss - you've gotta decide if the juice is worth the squeeze.



I'd like to see it when it's done - there's nothing like perfect black that someone painted and sanded to a higher standard than factory work.
 
To the OP:



I'm new to the detail enthusiast scene, as well. I have read a ton of information about detailing, and my process (which is very easy for us new folk) is as follows:



Using Porter Cable 7424 Polisher...



1. Wash and dry car. I use Zaino's car wash.



2. Clay car. I use Zaino's clay and Z-6 for this step.



3. On areas where you have significant scratches, swirls, marring, etc. (for me this was the roof, hood and trunk), Use Menzerna Intensive Polish with a Lake Country Orange pad.



4. Polish the entire vehicle with Menzerna Final Polish II with a Lake Country White pad. How the car looks after this step is going to determine how the car looks after applying the final polish, so make sure that it is flawless; go back over any areas that need additional attention with the appropriate pad and polish. Make sure that ALL traces of polish are removed from the car before continuing to next step, as it will prevent your Last Step Process (LSP) from adhering correctly. If you have to go back over any portion of the vehicle again with Intensive Polish, make sure you also do that same portion again with Final Polish II.



5. Four coats of Z-2 hand applied, with the ZFX accelerator added. Some people will tell you to wipe the entire car down with Z6 between coats, but I have had great results without the Z6 between.



Using this process my car looks unbelieveable. I had tried using the Porter Cable with Zaino PC Fusion with undesirable results. The Menzerna process above, however, gave me a show car shine.



There are literally HUNDREDS of different processes using hundreds of different products, ranging from very easy to insanely hard. IMO, the process above is very easy for us beginners, and you run very little risk of damaging your car's finish. About the only step where you could do some damage is with the Intensive Polish, but that's only if you're really ham-fisted wth the polisher.



Oh, and you WILL need a polisher to achieve the results you really want. There is simply no way your hands are capable of producing the amount of work required to obtain show car results. A Porter Cable 7424 performs as much work in one minute as your hands could do in about one hour. From there, just do the math. : )



Prior to buying my Porter Cable, I had been using a Sears orbital polisher. Do yourself a favor, and buy the correct polisher. : ) From personal experience, I can tell you that the PC 7424 is awesome for us new guys. I'm sure there are other equally good or better polishers out there, but I honestly believe you can't go wrong with the PC.



There are many, many sources of information that can give you additional info, help, techniques, etc. about how to correctly perform the above steps. Spend a few hours surfing the net, reading up from as many sources as you can find about how to correctly perform each step. Then, go grab your PC, and have fun! It's so addicting...I'm gonna go detail my newphew's badly scratched black Jeep just for ( I can't believe I'm saying this) "Fun".



Edit: the above process won't correct deep scratches, etched water spots, or other serious paint problems, but it will make them look much better. Correcting hard stuff like this is best left to the pros.
 
xtremekustomz said:
Looking for opinions. Is the Zaino Ultimate Protection Show Car Kit worh the money? Has anyone tried any other products that performed as well?



I don't know where you live, but climate may affect your choice. I live in AZ and Zaino is ideal for this climate. Waxes sublimate quickly in AZ heat and its not much fun to have to lay on additional protection during hot weather season. I'd rather be in the pool.
 
sspeer said:
I'd go a la carte...maybe just some ZAIO and maybe Z2Pro? ZFX?? (geesh it's hard to get out cheap) See if you really like it before investing so much



I'm not so much into boutique car wash and 'special applicators'



Agreed. ZAIO followed by Z5. No muss, no fuss, no mixing, no endless layering. 2 steps, 6 months protection with a modest investment. I am a firm believer in keeping the detailing process as simple as possible.



That was all I did to this S550. Polished with ZAIO and sealed with a single application of Z5 Pro.



2007_Mercedes_S550_black_frontend1.jpg




2007_Mercedes_S550_black_side1.jpg
 
Very nice pics. I did all the add layers a few months back, but I got too tired doing it. I think 2 or 3 layers of Z2p/Z5p and then top it off with Z-CS would be ideal.



But, if I ever notice it's not as slick after a Z7 car wash, I'll either add another coat or just Z8 it down...



I'm sure all the rain and the hot sun will wear it down, so I have to keep a fresh coat on :)
 
Yeah, I'm like most of you guys. I still have 2 coats of z5pro w/zfx. I havent try ZCS on my personal car yet. Maybe this weekend I give a shot(if doesnt pour).

But I do Z8 it once a month when I wash my car.
 
blkZ28Conv said:
:kewlpics Scott :drool:



Beautiful car and excellent detailing. :bow





Is that Optimum Protectant Plus on the tires?



Armor All, like pretty much always. I use OPP for interiors and occasionally, Optimum Tire Shine on the wheels. Similar look to Armor All.
 
Scottwax said:
Agreed. ZAIO followed by Z5. No muss, no fuss, no mixing, no endless layering. 2 steps, 6 months protection with a modest investment. I am a firm believer in keeping the detailing process as simple as possible.



That was all I did to this S550. Polished with ZAIO and sealed with a single application of Z5 Pro.



2007_Mercedes_S550_black_frontend1.jpg




2007_Mercedes_S550_black_side1.jpg





Scott, what pad did you use for the ZAIO? I used a Megs yellow with ZAIO and it seemed to offer some corrective abilities.
 
kt2000 said:
with zaino being so durable, how often do you reapply? I've applied twice the first month of ownership (2 coats each) and now in my 3rd month. Still looks good.





I'll be the first to admit that I'm a little slow, but .....



You've had Zaino on your car for over two months. You applied it twice on the first day and added two extra coats within thirty days. It has been between 31 and 59 days since your last application of Zaino.



I'm glad it "still looks good". :D
 
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