Zaino Water Spots

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wfedwar

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Well, I just observed my first problems with the infamous Zaino water spots. I polished my 98 4runner about 3 months ago and it was looking pretty good until recently. Well, the I washed it today and noticed some pretty severe water spotting on the hood and other horizontal surfaces. I know it wasn't there until recently. We just got through pollen season and I think the pollen's acidity contributed to the problem. Anyway, I'm pretty disappointed in Zaino's inability to provide better protection than this. I was a pretty loyal Zaino user, but now I'm looking elsewhere. In hindsight, Zaino probably cpntributed to the water spotting problems I've had with my truck as well, I just didn't have a good baseline with that. I know this is a common problem with Zaino, I just had to vent. BTW, the car is garaged all day.
 
News to me, Zaino user since 1999 and never experienced issues like you describe. Good wash and gloss enhancer should take care of any "water spots"

doug
 
I've had waterspotting problems with Collinite 476, let me know when you find a product that is impervious to remnants of evaporated H20.



I just don't think that any LSP will protect from spotting in all cases.
 
NSXTASY said:
I've had waterspotting problems with Collinite 476, let me know when you find a product that is impervious to remnants of evaporated H20.



I just don't think that any LSP will protect from spotting in all cases.
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Exactly.



The best that you can hope for is that the majority of water runs off the surface before it dries. If it is hard water, and it bakes into the surface, you will have etching.
 
Rob Tomlin said:
Exactly.



The best that you can hope for is that the majority of water runs off the surface before it dries. If it is hard water, and it bakes into the surface, you will have etching.
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I agree but Zaino did seem to amplify water spotting (bright white spots) though much more than other LSP's I've used. When it'd rain in the summer followed by a bright sunny day, a Zaino finish would leave some serious waterspotting, but when I increased the layering, from 3 to 5 it reduced the waterspotting..
 
Oh boy... sensing yet another "Zaino causes water spots!" "No, it doesn't, any LSP does!" thread.



Oh well... cast my lot to the winds and let it ride.



Count me in as another ex-Zainoite who was a huge, huge, huge Zaino fan for *years* until I realized my water spotting problems were caused by it. Funny, I haven't had any of the water spot problems that plagued me for the years I was using Zaino since I stopped. We'll just chock that up to coincidence. :)



Yup, any LSP can let water or any environmental contaminant through it eventually, for sure. Some are just more prone to it than others. Gotta keep on top of it regardless of what LSP you're using.



Guess I better put this flame fan down now....
 
Yeah, I never meant to imply that water spots can't happen without Zaino, but I felt like this was pretty fast spotting on a car that has about 4 coats of Z5 and Z2, along with some Z8 here and there.



Superbee-- what did you switch to that you like better?
 
I'm using a bunch of different things now... depends on what the constomer wants, or if it's my vehicle. I do still use Zaino occasionally, though. It's really hard to beat the look of Zaino, for sure. And if it's a car that spends most of it's time in the garage instead of the weather, I don't feel bad about using it at all. There's a few cars that I've done with Zaino that haven't been driven in months. They're still sitting in garages. No fear of water spot issues there. But if it's a DD, I use other things.
 
I try to wash the car after a rain storm before the Sun beats me to it. It's annoying and a lot of hard work, but I don't want to keep busting out the PC and cutting pad just to remove the spots. Sometimes claying does not work, and you would have to use a polish.
 
I know carnauba is supposed to protect better...



I have Meg's 16 on half of my hood and two coats of Z5pro on the other half. I work up with morning to water spots, and after a quick ONR wipedown, the only side that still had (very LIGHT) spotting was the Meguiars side.
 
Interesting observation. I don't know that carnauba protects better than sealants. I've seen posts that say that, but I don't know it to be true. Your experience points the other way. Anyway, I have decided to try JW. I ordered some Prime:Acrylic and AJT today. If it's even as good as Zaino, I'd think it would be a win since it's just a WOWO application. I may continue to use both Zaino and JW, depending on the car. I also have some collinite and others to try...
 
I think I've seen this, for the first time. I ONR'd my car on Friday and upon close inspection I had hundreds of tiny tight bead spots. Like it had rained and Zaino did it's job of keeping everything looking great and then it all dried right on the surface.



I figured it didn't come off with ONR because I sealed it in. Nor did I have the time to give it more attention to figure out what was really going on.



I never noticed this phenomenon before when I had a garage. Quite interesting to say the least.
 
I'm with Sup. I've been using Z2 Pro (1 coat, every other month) Z6, and Z8 on my silver 2002 Accord and the spots are there. I've got a 2007 IS350 and the spots are starting to appear on that car, also. I don't know for a fact that it's because of Zaino as I've tried nothing else on the cars. I ordered some 845 but I'm waiting until I buff the spots out to try it. Both cars are garaged every night but sit out all day at work. Here, in South Florida, rain, followed by intense sunshine is common. There may be nothing I can do.
 
I've seen the waterspotting issue with products other than Zaino. Funny thing is I can see some watterpotting after washing when the vehicle is still wet. After the vehicle dries I can't see them.

I think a lot of it depends on atmospheric conditions. In my area Zaino has been the most consistent of anything I've tried.
 
I can't believe what I'm reading, some of you guys are actually blaming the protection on your car for water spotting?? I'm assuming because it makes it bead better your saying it's also spotting more.....



Instead of blaming some LSP maybe you should try to dry the car faster or better so it won't spot as much. Maybe try washing it when the sun is not in the sky or in the shade, or use a water softener or pull it in the garage to dry it.....
 
JoshVette said:
I can't believe what I'm reading, some of you guys are actually blaming the protection on your car for water spotting?? I'm assuming because it makes it bead better your saying it's also spotting more.....



Instead of blaming some LSP maybe you should try to dry the car faster or better so it won't spot as much. Maybe try washing it when the sun is not in the sky or in the shade, or use a water softener or pull it in the garage to dry it.....
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I'm not sure anyone is blaming a LSP for their spotting. I think people are just seeing groupings OF spots they didn't see before. Like in my case.



I park at the edge of a curb every day, which is by a sprinkler so I'm sure my car has spotting from that sprinkler. Because Zaino is beading (and tight beads at that).. my car has tons of smaller water spots. Obviously this is because the beads sitting on my car are smaller and tighter grouped and not big 'splotches' or 'puddles' of water that some folks refer to as beading.



Basically my car has water spots, thousands of them that are about the size of tapioca balls found in pudding.



I didn't say Zaino caused it. I said that I hadn't noticed it prior but I am no longer garaged nightly either.
 
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