What can't you use ONR on?

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levander

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I saw a post int the archives by Scottwax saying the only stuff not to use ONR on is stuff that's porous... Not sure how to determine if a surface is porous or not...



But from the sounds of it, maybe carpet would be something that is porous, so don't use ONR on it?



I remember Scottwax also said for basic washes he dips a MF in ONR and rings it out, then wipes down the interior with it. Have never seen him mention if it's ONR at QD or car wash dilution. I would assume he's talking about car wash dilution.



Any worries about wiping down the interior with ONR at QD dilution? Since I keep a bottle of that in my trunk already, that'd be more convenient for my practices. Just occasionally spray a MF down real good with it, maybe ring it out some, then wipe everything down. I end up needing to clean my car's interior more than exterior. Guess just cause I'm sitting inside it, looking at the dust there bothers me more.



Right now, when I do thorough washes I go over everything (but the carpet) with 3:1 OPC and then apply 303. But if I could just wipe everything down whit ONR @ QD, things would definitely get cleaned more.



I guess with ONR @ QD, I'm mostly worried about carpets and leather.



For the leather, just go over it with an ONR @ QD MF and then go back over it with a clean cloth to make sure there's no residue left?
 
I could never get it to work as a window cleaner no matter the dilution. It always left a film or smear. I still haven't tried the new formula, so that may make a difference.
 
Dan said:
I wouldn't use it on leather. Plastic and other stuff is fine though.
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I had the same concern, so I called Optimum and asked about using ONR at QD strength for wiping down the leather interior. The gentleman on the phone said it was fine.
 
Dan said:
I wouldn't use it on leather. Plastic and other stuff is fine though.
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Works fine on leather. That's how I keep mine clean on a weekly basis.



Works on carpets and headliners, glass, wood, etc. Really not sure if I've found its limitations yet.
 
Erik, I still consider myself noob at this stuff. But, I think it's supposed to leave a smear. you wipe the window with the right pressure on the MF and the smear should evaporate a few seconds after you finish a wipe... I did it about a week ago on some windows, and that's vaguely what I remember doing.



The smear is the "polymers" that make a gloss on paint. you kind of see the same effect on paint when you use ONR there, it's just more obvious on a window because the window is clear.
 
You guys using ONR @ QD dilution on leather, do you worry about making sure there's no residue left on the leather after cleaning it? just wipe it down with a clean towel after?



But, I believe ONR is designed to leave a residue... Kind of like I was saying in that last post about glass.



I've just read it's a bad idea to leave residue from your cleaner on leather. Kind of like these guys on here using 20:1 Woolite on leather. They make sure not to leave suds behind. hence the discussions about HE version of Woolite, etc..
 
levander said:
You guys using ONR @ QD dilution on leather, do you worry about making sure there's no residue left on the leather after cleaning it? just wipe it down with a clean towel after?



But, I believe ONR is designed to leave a residue... Kind of like I was saying in that last post about glass.



I've just read it's a bad idea to leave residue from your cleaner on leather. Kind of like these guys on here using 20:1 Woolite on leather. They make sure not to leave suds behind. hence the discussions about HE version of Woolite, etc..
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I don't believe ONR is specifically designed to leave anything behind, I think the added gloss and slickness is a by-product of the polymer used. I have had zero problems using it to wipe down leather. I don't notice any additional dirt attraction which would be a tell tale sign of "bad" residue.
 
I too haven't found much of anything that ONR can't be used on. I actually use it as a polishing lube/rewetting agent too and it works great. I thought at one time it left something behind on my car's black textured dash, but couldn't confirm that it was from polishing compound residue still stuck within the towel that got released? It ended up vanishing the next time I spiffed my interior.
 
Erik Mejia said:
I could never get it to work as a window cleaner no matter the dilution. It always left a film or smear. I still haven't tried the new formula, so that may make a difference.
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My go to window cleaner is a 32 ounce bottle of qd strength onr with an ounce or two of rubbing alcohol added. No streaks and good cleaning ability.
 
levander said:
Erik, I still consider myself noob at this stuff. But, I think it's supposed to leave a smear. you wipe the window with the right pressure on the MF and the smear should evaporate a few seconds after you finish a wipe... I did it about a week ago on some windows, and that's vaguely what I remember doing.



The smear is the "polymers" that make a gloss on paint. you kind of see the same effect on paint when you use ONR there, it's just more obvious on a window because the window is clear.
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Maybe the new formula will work better. Right now I stick to MarkV Window Sheen as my go to glass cleaner. I also want to try out the 3D Glass Cleaner 50:1 concentrate very soon.
 
Okay, finally got time to look back into this... Purpose of my asking was to make a small "spot cleaning survival kit" for my car. I've got quite a bit of travelling coming up and after having been reading Autopia on and off for about a year now, I've become very picky about keeping my car clean.



Basically, I'm just gonna have a bottle of ONR @ QD dilution. Spray down a MF towel with it and run down the entire interior. Of course being careful around electronics, something else obvious may come up. But for now, I'm under the impression ONR @ QD dilution is fine on everything.



Then I'll also have a bottle of OPC 3:1 that I'll only use if there's something the ONR won't work on. The difference between the OPC and ONR being that stuff cleaned with OPC MUST BE RINSED after cleaning. This necessitates a 3rd bottle full of plain water.



Basically, to clean something with OPC, spray down an area on a MF good, agitate the surface to be cleaned with it. Then spray down a different area on the MF with water and agitate that surface a little more with it.



My Dad and Sister have been asking about this, so I'm thinking I'm going to buy them a small bag and throw this same stuff in it. They pay to have their cars cleaned, but go long periods in between getting theirs washed. It'd be good for them to have something to spot clean or quickly wipe down the interiors with.



I'm not so worried about opinions from you guys for exterior/paint from you guys. I've read quite a bit about that already myself.



But, simple opinions as to whether this is a good idea or not (especially from Scottwax) appreciated. I'm pretty sure what I'm thinking is fine.
 
David Fermani said:
.... I actually use it as a polishing lube/rewetting agent too and it works great....
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This is slightly off topic but I have been wondering if it is possible to polish with just a ONR mix and a finishing pad to 'jewel' the paint
 
levander said:
Then I'll also have a bottle of OPC 3:1 that I'll only use if there's something the ONR won't work on. The difference between the OPC and ONR being that stuff cleaned with OPC MUST BE RINSED after cleaning. This necessitates a 3rd bottle full of plain water.



Basically, to clean something with OPC, spray down an area on a MF good, agitate the surface to be cleaned with it. Then spray down a different area on the MF with water and agitate that surface a little more with it.
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I don't think this requires a third bottle of plain water. Clean with OPC, then rinse with the ONR solution. It will do a better job of cleaning the OPC residue than plain water would anyway.
 
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