Video: Acheiving a swirl free finish with Meguiar's M105 Ultra Cut Compound

[Todd@RUPES]

This video piggy backs on this thread: Finishing with Meguiar's M105 Ultra Cut Compound


I felt that a video might better demonstrate the technique.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyClLWxoCf4&feature=plcp]Achieving a High Gloss Finish With Meguiars M105 Ultra Cut Compound - YouTube[/ame]



As always credit must go to where it is do. Thank you to Kevin Brown for always expanding my knowledge of machine correction. Many of the concepts that come into play with this technique come from many late night, long conversations with Mr. Brown, before I coined the term, the Kevin Brown Method. (Of which many of the techniques in this video and the linked thread are, in fact, the KBM).

 

[jeffny09]

Thanks todd..great video...is that a polishing pad they used after the orange one(white pad for.lcc?)

 

[Todd@RUPES]

Thanks todd..great video...is that a polishing pad they used after the orange one(white pad for.lcc?)

Thanks. That is a blue finishing pad.

 

[jeffny09]

Thanks. That is a blue finishing pad.

I may have ome of.theae.. Tha.ks

 

[Trouble]

Who is the guy talking? Sounds like Jersey Shore up in here :lol2:

 

[dd1101]

Sweet Video ordered some yesterday with the 20% sale:rockon
Todd I have plenty of pads but all ccs or hydrotech non flat so I ordered the yellow and blue. My old Acura has swirls that UC and m205 didn't take out.

 

[sprocketser]

Thanx for the tips

 

[BobbyG]

Todd, this is a great example of what using different pads really bring to the level of clarity and brilliance using only 1 product. When illustrating this, many seem shocked at the results when using 2 different pads and only 1 product...:bigups

 

[Pats300zx]

Great video Todd...Thank for putting that together for us.

 

[Todd@RUPES]

Todd, this is a great example of what using different pads really bring to the level of clarity and brilliance using only 1 product. When illustrating this, many seem shocked at the results when using 2 different pads and only 1 product...:bigups

The pad certainately makes a difference. It is also a function of reducing machine polisher speed while keeping pressure and arm speed consistent. This alters the pattern the machine moves on the pad. It in effect makes the pattern more 'gentle' which creates a more even surface for abrasives being pushed against the paint. The result is a more uniform finish.

 

[juliom2]

Nicely done!!!What an excelent work tool.
Well explained....:bigups

 

[Todd@RUPES]

Nicely done!!!What an excelent work tool.
Well explained....:bigups

Gracias mi amigo!

 

[L&I Detailing]

Great video, really helps to put your previous article into perspective! Much appreciated

 

[L&I Detailing]

UPDATE: So after reading the article and seeing the video I was curious to try this technique out and I had the perfect opportunity to try it out on this 2012 BMW 3 series. Despite me saying not to go to the public car washes cause they scratch your car, my mom did it any way and boy did the car wash scratch her hood.

Used my GC with Meguiars pads cutting and polishing and M105, speed 6 for cutting and 4.5 for polishing. Great results! much easier IMO then having to polish with one then use another product.

Before

After

 

[Todd@RUPES]

UPDATE: So after reading the article and seeing the video I was curious to try this technique out and I had the perfect opportunity to try it out on this 2012 BMW 3 series. Despite me saying not to go to the public car washes cause they scratch your car, my mom did it any way and boy did the car wash scratch her hood.

Used my GC with Meguiars pads cutting and polishing and M105, speed 6 for cutting and 4.5 for polishing. Great results! much easier IMO then having to polish with one then use another product.

Before

After

I'm glad you had great results with this!

 

[addysdaddy]

Impressive results Todd. How would the results compare if everything remained the same but you used M205 for the polishing stage?

 

[RustyFinish]

Impressive results Todd. How would the results compare if everything remained the same but you used M205 for the polishing stage?

This was my thought too!
:inspector:

 

[addysdaddy]

Noted in a similar thread Todd's response which was basically "it depends on the paint" but something about the ultra fine grain abrasives in the M105 that makes the magic happen. Probably worth doing two test panels and see if there's a noticeable difference in the two approaches, but it's a very cool concept. Once again, Todd's da man.

 

[CT3]

Thanks Todd!

 

[Todd@RUPES]

Noted in a similar thread Todd's response which was basically "it depends on the paint" but something about the ultra fine grain abrasives in the M105 that makes the magic happen. Probably worth doing two test panels and see if there's a noticeable difference in the two approaches, but it's a very cool concept. Once again, Todd's da man.

Sorry I missed this earlier....

Here is the thing. M205 is a dedicated finishing polish and, when used correctly, can product a really great finish on most paints. I can often duplicate (or beat) the finish left by M205 by using M105, although it is more difficult to due and more finicky.

You have to imagine these 1000's of little abrasives taking small amounts of paint off. These abrasives are as fine as any fully diminished abrasive. However there are a lot of them (which gives M105 its ability to cut paint). If you over work the product just a little bit, too much material is removed (which acts almost as an adhesive) and binds these fine abrasives together. The result is an uneven finish (or what we see as micro marring).

For 99% of the users, M205 is going to produce a better finish. For that 1% or maybe that 1% of 1% who are willing to dial in their technique (specific to the paint system) they may find that M105 rivals or beats the finish of M205.