True state of affairs at Meguiar's?

C. Charles Hahn

CCH Auto Appearance, LLC
So I'm sure most everyone is familiar with the fact that the G110v2 has been on manufacturer back-order for months now, and just recently became available again at some of the bigger distributors. Well, I ordered one during Autogeek's recent 15% off sale and it came in today.



On the box there's a label that listed the production date as 12/28/2010. I can't help but wonder if that's any indication of trouble in Meguiar's land if they had units produced and couldn't get them out to distributors for sale.



Just thought it was interesting and figured I'd share. :hm
 
I think an email to Jason Rose or someone at Meguiar's might give you an answer.



Maybe a post on Meguiar's online forum.
 
gmblack3a said:
I think an email to Jason Rose or someone at Meguiar's might give you an answer.



Maybe a post on Meguiar's online forum.



Probably. To be clear, I didn't start a thread to put Meguiar's down, but rather to express genuine concern that things might not be so peachy as we on the outside might be led to believe. I hate seeing this kind of thing happening to a company and products I've had a long standing relationship with.
 
Shiny Lil Detlr said:
Probably. To be clear, I didn't start a thread to put Meguiar's down, but rather to express genuine concern that things might not be so peachy as we on the outside might be lead to believe. I hate seeing this kind of thing happening to a company and products I've had a long standing relationship with.



Charlie, What thing is happening to megs? You are basing your assumption off of a born on date.



They are owned by 3m, you might of heard of them before, I believe they have a market cap of $68.37B so I would not think that there is a shortage of cash.
 
gmblack3a said:
Charlie, What thing is happening to megs? You are basing your assumption off of a born on date.



They are owned by 3m, you might of heard of them before, I believe they have a market cap of $68.37B so I would not think that there is a shortage of cash.



This isn't the first product Meg's has had a problem getting out to distributors lately. Not worried about a shortage of cash, but if they're having problems with the folks they contract to produce products that's still not a good situation.



The only reason I made this thread was because I thought the situation was interesting/ironic, that's all.
 
If these machines were manufactured overseas I wonder if customs held them up? I also wonder how accurate the production date is? I've heard of new cars sitting at the plants waiting for final misc parts before shipping and I'm sure the door jamp production/vin label doesn't reflect that. Keep us posted.
 
David Fermani said:
If these machines were manufactured overseas I wonder if customs held them up? I also wonder how accurate the production date is? I've heard of new cars sitting at the plants waiting for final misc parts before shipping and I'm sure the door jamp production/vin label doesn't reflect that. Keep us posted.



Well, it does say "Made in China" (just like most things these days). Only thing that leads me to believe the date stamp is accurate is that the machine's serial number is also listed on it, but who knows. Anything is possible.



Regardless, I'm very happy with the unit thus far, even though I haven't had the opportunity to really push it to its limits yet.
 
I know my g110v2 stopped working right, as seen by bryan, so maybe meguiars sent it back for r&d? I need to get in contact with them to get my machine repaired.



Thank goodness my g100 still works flawlessly.
 
I have an opinion about the direction Meguiars is heading if you guys and gals would like to hear it :kev:
 
Perhaps it has something to do with all the crazy weather/tornado's that we have been having. I know I have had trouble having other items (not detailing related) shipped due to the tornado's down south. Some companies are delaying shipping due to damage to facilities, and others because their facilities have actually been damaged by the storms. Just a school of thought, since it has happened to me on a recently purchased item (in which an email was sent to me indicating such and indicating extended ship time).
 
I seen this thread, and thought I would comment. Keep in mind I'm not speaking for Meguairs. I was told by Jason Rose that they were on back order because of a part in the machine and not the machine itself. <--- as I remember correctly, I could be worng, but I believe is what the cause was. I was comparing the Griots machine with him versus the G11o v2. Which I never used. Thats what started the whole conversation.
 
On a side note I foward this link to Jason's personal email asking him to chime in. Hopefully he does. Jason thanks in advance for your support on Autopia.org
 
Because of the problems getting a G110 v2, I ended up getting a PC 7424 XP instead. My G110 died and I couldn't wait for a back-ordered machine so I got the PC at my Meguiars distributor instead. Good thing they carry both DA polishers.
 
Scottwax said:
Because of the problems getting a G110 v2, I ended up getting a PC 7424 XP instead. My G110 died and I couldn't wait for a back-ordered machine so I got the PC at my Meguiars distributor instead. Good thing they carry both DA polishers.



To be honest I'd been carefully considering picking up either the PCXP or GG6 instead, but having tried an XP that a friend obtained and comparing it to my original PC, I didn't feel that the build quality was anywhere near where it needed to be (or anything like it used to be). As for the GG6, I knew that it was the "most powerful" of the FRSA-type DAs but also heard from one of the sales reps at Autogeek that the GG6 had the highest rate of defective returns of any of the three machines.



Between that and the fact that I really liked the idea of the electronic cruise control circuit the G110v2 has, I decided to wait for them to be available and all things considered, I'm glad I waited.



I don't know what information Jason Rose is allowed to discuss or is comfortable sharing, but it will be interesting to hear him chime in as well here.
 
I'd hardly use some delays in delivery of a single product as an indicator of success. Stores seem to have plenty of stock of the new products and they seem to rotate through it pretty quickly. The G110 is a niche product compared to their consumer level products. What is important is they are taking care of customers with issues instead of blaming the customer for problems. Megs is a stand up company and a pleasure to deal with, I'd be shocked to find out something shady was going on.
 
Shiny Lil Detlr said:
Between that and the fact that I really liked the idea of the electronic cruise control circuit the G110v2 has, I decided to wait for them to be available and all things considered, I'm glad I waited.



I didn't have any choice, had to go with what I could get immediately locally. Either going to get my G110 fixed or get another one so I always have a back-up.
 
Shiny Lil Detlr said:
So I'm sure most everyone is familiar with the fact that the G110v2 has been on manufacturer back-order for months now, and just recently became available again at some of the bigger distributors. Well, I ordered one during Autogeek's recent 15% off sale and it came in today.



On the box there's a label that listed the production date as 12/28/2010. I can't help but wonder if that's any indication of trouble in Meguiar's land if they had units produced and couldn't get them out to distributors for sale.



Just thought it was interesting and figured I'd share. :hm



12/28.....we are only talking about 4 months old roughly. Made in China, goes through the export process in China, gets shipped here, goes through customs, gets sent to a distribution warehouse, then sent to a retailer. Seems like a bit of a stretch to jump to the conclusion that "things may not be peachy at Meguiar's".
 
weekendwarrior said:
Seems like a bit of a stretch to jump to the conclusion that "things may not be peachy at Meguiar's".



How is it a stretch to conclude that maybe their supplier in the people's republic was yanking them around, or that they were having other administrative issues?



All of those things are bad for business, not just money issues. You make it sound like I made a thread saying "OMG they're going to go bankrupt!" or something. That's far from the case.
 
Shiny Lil Detlr said:
How is it a stretch to conclude that maybe their supplier in the people's republic was yanking them around, or that they were having other administrative issues?



All of those things are bad for business, not just money issues. You make it sound like I made a thread saying "OMG they're going to go bankrupt!" or something. That's far from the case.



3M will not be going bankrupt. However, if Meguiars proves not to be the money generator the board of directors were hoping for, they will cut it loose. The board of directors make their decisions off number$, not emotions
 
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