Thoughts and Prayers for the victims and Families in Orlando

xspwrstang said:
Why do these things keep happening? Yes, at the forefront you have the mentally disturbed person to blame, however, the ease of getting a high powered weapon in this country is ALSO to blame. Had this person not been able to get his hands on that useless (for civilians) high powered weapon, there would have been many more people coming out of that club. I truly believe these are signs...if you look at how these senseless killings have been getting worse, it all points to one reason! That reason being those high powered guns. When will people finally get it? Those guns have no use or practical purpose in the U.S.
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If someone is hell bent on killing, they will find a way.

he just as easily put some fertilizer and diesel (both easier to get than guns and ammo) and driven it right in the front door. Then you`d have 320 bodies. Or thrown in an ied or Molotov cocktail
 
xspwrstang said:
And in this case, how could you deport this coward who did this, if he was a US citizen?
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Can`t deport em. But IF the system was allowed to work like it should, he would have never gotten his hands on that weapon (as he did, not discounting someone else getting it for him)
 
xspwrstang said:
Fertilizer, pressure cookers, cars....those things were MADE into a weapon...AR-15 IS already a weapon. A civilian will NEVER NEED a useless weapon like that. I call it useless because it serves no purpose for a civilian.
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As I said, if someone is determined to kill, they will find a way.

And nobody really "needs" rice cookers.
 
Yes, while he could have done plenty of other things to make things worse, he simply went for the easy way. He went out bought a weapon that he could instantly use for malicious purposes and he didn`t have to get anything else other than ammo. And that`s my point, it`s too easy for these nuts to do this because of the easy access to those types of useless weapons.
 
xspwrstang said:
Yes, while he could have done plenty of other things to make things worse, he simply went for the easy way. He went out bought a weapon that he could instantly use for malicious purposes and he didn`t have to get anything else other than ammo. And that`s my point, it`s too easy for these nuts to do this because of the easy access to those types of useless weapons.
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IMHO this was not the "easy way", this hate filled nut job wanted to see his carnage.

Is it all weapons you are against or just assault weapons? What about Paris, Belgium, they have a gun ban..... Was that a figment of my imagination?
 
No it`s not all weapons, my two brothers own hand guns, rifles and they themselves agree as I do, those weapons are useless for a civilian. I`m not for a gun ban at all. I think if you want to own a gun for your protection it should be your right to do so. But guns of that nature are simply useless guns IMHO! A normal person can protect their family/home with a handgun/shotgun/rifle...in all honesty, if an intruder comes into your house. It`s going to be dark in your home, you`re going to wake up half asleep, and if it comes to you shooting a gun inside your house it will be extremely loud....will you reach for your AR-15 and spray your house with bullets, or will a .45 be safer and easier to control?
 
maybe his X should be charged too. If he had been convicted of domestic violence he wouldn`t have been able to purchase those guns.
 
Angus said:
Completely agree.

Honest question: Do you guys not see access to semi-automatic weapons like the AR-15 part of the overall problem?

The sad reality is that weapon in particular has been used in many recent massacres:
  • Orlando (49 dead: 53 wounded)
  • Sandy Hook (26 dead; 2 wounded)
  • Aurora, Colorado(12 dead; 70 wounded),
  • Roseburg, Oregon (10 dead; 9 wounded),
  • San Bernardino, California (14 dead; 22 wounded)
The above murders choose the AR-15 because because they were aware of how many shots it could get out, how lethal it was, the way it was designed, that it would serve their objective of killing as many people as possible in the shortest time possible.

Can someone explain to me why FL doesn`t have a waiting period for buying an AR-15 but does have a 3 day waiting period for handguns? Or does that also make no sense to you? Because it makes zero sense to me. To be clear, I`m not suggesting to "ban all guns" but I am for common sense gun laws that remove semi-automatic rifles from civilian hands were they do not belong.
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I am completely dumbfounded (maybe dumb) that there is more outrage at the tool and not the act..........

And just a point of fact, this does not seem like a "semi auto"
 
A List Of The Deadliest Mass Shootings In Modern U.S. History : The Two-Way : NPR

here`s the worst 12 mass shootings in the U.S. I find it interesting that only 3 of the 12 used an AR-15. Of those 3, 2 were acts or terrorism and the 3rd was a kid who should`ve never had access to the weapons.

Gun Facts | Gun Control Facts Concerning Assault Weapons

Bottom line is people going out and buying AR-15`s and killing a bunch of people is not a common occurance and it`s not the "big problem" the media and the left want you to think it is, especially when you take into consideration how many AR-15`s are owned by the civilian population.
 
Ronkh...don`t get me wrong. The coward that did this is just that, a coward who prayed on innocent people! I`m glad the brave officers took care of him! There is equal outrage for me about the coward as there is about the fact that those guns are legal. Those guns should require special permits to own/buy them in order to avoid cowards from buying them!
 
Angus said:
Completely agree.

Honest question: Do you guys not see access to semi-automatic weapons like the AR-15 part of the overall problem?

The sad reality is that weapon in particular has been used in many recent massacres:
  • Orlando (49 dead: 53 wounded)
  • Sandy Hook (26 dead; 2 wounded)
  • Aurora, Colorado(12 dead; 70 wounded),
  • Roseburg, Oregon (10 dead; 9 wounded),
  • San Bernardino, California (14 dead; 22 wounded)
The above murders choose the AR-15 because because they were aware of how many shots it could get out, how lethal it was, the way it was designed, that it would serve their objective of killing as many people as possible in the shortest time possible.

Can someone explain to me why FL doesn`t have a waiting period for buying an AR-15 but does have a 3 day waiting period for handguns? Or does that also make no sense to you? Because it makes zero sense to me. To be clear, I`m not suggesting to "ban all guns" but I am for common sense gun laws that remove semi-automatic rifles from civilian hands were they do not belong.
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I just don`t get it.

Let`s say as of tomorrow all AR-15s just disappear....you honestly think these crazies are not gonna find another weapon that can cause just as much carnage?? Then what? Then we ban that too?

Also because someone likes to target practice as a sport with AR-15 and they are not gonna hurt someone else with it they don`t deserve to own one?

THE GUN IS REALLY NOT THE PROBLEM.

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xspwrstang said:
No it`s not all weapons, my two brothers own hand guns, rifles and they themselves agree as I do, those weapons are useless for a civilian. I`m not for a gun ban at all. I think if you want to own a gun for your protection it should be your right to do so. But guns of that nature are simply useless guns IMHO! A normal person can protect their family/home with a handgun/shotgun/rifle...in all honesty, if an intruder comes into your house. It`s going to be dark in your home, you`re going to wake up half asleep, and if it comes to you shooting a gun inside your house it will be extremely loud....will you reach for your AR-15 and spray your house with bullets, or will a .45 be safer and easier to control?
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A 20 gauge with buck shot is a way better option for home defense than a
.45

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