The Workout/Weight Loss Thread

So I did my halfway point today (5 months) tests. I did a DEXA scan that measures % body fat, blood pressure, and another Max Heartrate test :heelclick



I've lost 16 pounds, and 3% bodyfat. My blood pressure was the craziest part, went from a normal 120/80 to 99/67. The max heart rate test was a little dissapointing, I couldn't get it to where it was earlier, I went to 186 (19 bpm below what it was 5 months ago), and it felt like i was at about a 11 incline. I think it might have something to do with the fact that It is just so much more difficult to get my heartrate that high, it was more physical strain than strain on my heart that made me stop, my calves were on fire!



Anyways, half way to that $2000!!!!!
 
S&S Detailing- Wow, really impressed with that BP diff :xyxthumbs Heh heh, wish mine responded so well!



Interesting about the HR diff, but IMO 186 is nothing to sneeze at.



Hope you're happy with your bodyfat % drop too.
 
7 miles shy of 3500 for the year, next ride will put me over 200 miles up on last year's total. :)



Getting skinny!



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Just when you thought I disappeared.....



a) Considering the fall I took last year, I am working on getting the knees back in shape through intensive weight training

b) Wifey and I still ride our bikes but she wants to buy an Elliptical bicycle ($2199)
 
A few things I forgot to mention:



a) We are adding Kenpo Karate to the mix. Trust me, the classes will WORK you out.

b) My goals for next year are the following:



1) I have a class reunion cruise I am taking next year

2) We have an annual event with United Way that involves rope, a tow bar, and.....



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The record for pulling this plane is 4.55 seconds and I want to DEMOLISH it!
 
Always good to see people posting on this thread, and yeah...Hey PrinzII :wavey It's been a while!



Doing the right leg work can really help with knee issues (voice of experience). By building up my hamstrings and Vasti Medialis I solved my problems like magic.



Scottwax- Heh heh, when you gonna post a pic without the shirt? :chuckle: But seriously, yeah..you are looking a lot leaner :xyxthumbs
 
Another 10-12 pounds down and I might grace this thread with a topless picture of me. :lol



Rode 42 miles in the wind Monday, 54.5 on Tuesday. Only upper 60s today, I'll have to bust out the wool socks and put the arm warmers in my saddle bag.
 
Scottwax said:
Rode 42 miles in the wind Monday, 54.5 on Tuesday..



How long does that sort of ride take you? Seems like the guys I know who do a lot of biking spend a *lot* of time at it :think:
 
Alixshishimhae- Yeah, my wife is very big on the low glycemic index diet (she's been doing "The Zone" for years) as she's very sensitive to that sort of thing. Me...eh, not to where I've ever noticed.



What's the premise behind the Cardio Strength Training?
 
The premise of it is the creation of metabolic disturbance which reduces the amount of actual time you work out or exercise but increases the overall performance and results it's basically what a lot of the popular max interval training is based on, except this isn't commercialized..the book itself looks thick but it's mainly due to charts for the various samples of routine and pictures for basic form.you can also get it as an e-book



essentially it's a breakdown of various levels and sublevels (beg, int, advanced, and in between levels for each) of effective max interval training and things like the Tabata Protocol.



so on average most people workout about and hour or so when they do, but if you can minimize the efficiency of the workout so that you workout for say 20 minutes, then hey, why not? The catch is--it's exhausting lol. On average your conventional workout/exercise routine will burn more calories during the workout, but the key to Max intervals or things like that is that the afterburn, or the caloric burn throughout the day is much greater.



This helps you burn the subcutaneous fat (which women are more prone too) and well as the visceral fat (which is the main problem fat) at a faster/efficient rate, as well as elevating your VO2 capacities at a higher rate...some of the many factors that eventually help you define overall fitness
 
Accumulator said:
How long does that sort of ride take you? Seems like the guys I know who do a lot of biking spend a *lot* of time at it :think:



I typically am riding at 19-22 mph, upwards of 25 in a paceline.



20 mph pace without drafting burns about 1000 calories an hour, so a 2-3 hour ride eats fat.
 
Alexshimshimhae- OK, copy that. I do very intense interval training for my cardio and yeah, I'm finished in twenty-some minutes. Yeah, it's very demanding, though I wouldn't call it "exhausting" and I can do a leg workout within a few hours of my cardio (guess the fast-twitch fibers don't get much work during the cardio sessions). I do mine first thing in the morning, on an empty stomach. Anything less intense/longer duration I figure might as well just do during the daily dog outings so they get some exercise too.



Does Robert Dos Remedios say anything about target max heart-rates and/or recovery intervals (work:recovery ratios, how "easy" to make the recovery periods, etc.)? I've backed my work intervals back to where I'm only running about 96% of my (actual, not "age-related") max and I get the distinct impression that it's healthier for me. It's difficult to find hard data on just how hard one should push this stuff over the very long-term (decades of really hard excercise), haven't found any (reliable) studies on it yet :think:



Scottwax- Glad that works well for you, and I know you simply love doing it (big plus, huh?). I couldn't put in the time, but then I'm not trying to lose weight either. Any idea what kind of heart-rate you're running when you do those rides?
 
yea, you can base your rest periods based on a set heart rate(so when your heart rate returns to XXX you hit your next set because that means your body has returned to a determined base) but he says the majority of people find it a PITA or w.e. so though he explains how to setup your rest periods with HR the sample routines he has are based off of seconds.



The way these complexes work is combining cardio with resistance/weight training--so essentially you're getting 2 in 1 (similarly to p90x and insanity workout--but because you are your own gauge and because he takes out commercial fluff--it's not watered down)



He talks about studies where they had two groups of people: 1 did traditional exercise/workouts and the other did his method. The traditional worked out I think an hour a day, 3-4 times a week. The other group (B) for like 20 minutes or for same frequency of days.



Results?

Group A: burned more calories during the workout

Group B: resulted in higher VO2 capacities and just about every other gaugeable mark of performance fitness and health.



The issue with working on and empty stomach, is that though you will slim down, they've found that your body tends to metabolize your muscles at a faster level. It's odd, because on the other hand, in workouts you have degrees of activity before your body really registers conversion or metabolism of fat. For instance, IIRC the first level is burning off the immediate sugars and stuff like that, then it's pretty much adrenaline and hormones pretty much natures mechanism kicking in, but then you break into whatever stores you have left, and done right you burn fat.



The problem people have with high intensity workouts is Vo2 levels, pretty much if you're panting like a maniac than that means your body is starved for air; no air means no burning, which means decrease in fat burn and increase in metabolism of muscle. The issue is though, as your body gets acclimated to it, your body adapts and learns to efficiently take and burn oxygen (in other words your body's learning curve). The other biggest thing, is that the way Remedios compiles all these things, the workout itself is just a catalyst to what really goes on for the rest of the day, or the afterburn.



Essentially, his whole philosophy is on creating metabolic disturbance. So physics, an action will result in a reaction. SO if you cause a large enough metabolic disruption (compact and condense a full workout into a fraction of the time allotted) it's like when you draw the rock back on a sling shot. once you let that sucker go, the rock (proverbial metabolism) goes much further than the actual distance of pulling it back.



SO you may burn less calories during the workout, but guess who's metabolic furnace is supercharged? (I should mention however, that because of the afterburn effect, it would probably steer away from doing it about a day before a doctors visit, as people have found that their doctors have trouble understanding the afterburn effect and just take it as potential hypertension and things like that)



All in all, the book is 15 USD on amazon, and I found out i can get it electronically via kindle (or on my phone I can get a kindle app for free) and it's like an Hour read, I hardly see it as a risky investment lol.
 
Alexshimshimhae- Eh, note that I'm probably coming at this from a different perspective from many people; I'm not trying to change my results any, can honestly say I'm 100% satisfied with how I've been for ages now.



But I wouldn't mind improving my cardiovascular condition (I mean, who *wouldn't* want to maximize that just for overall health?!?) so I find the subject interesting and that's why I asked. I thought he might have some controlled-study info on the subject of recovery intervals beyond what I've already read. It's tough to find hard data regarding the long-term maintenance of high levels of conditioning.



Mixing my cardio with my weight training merely compromises the latter so I guess his approach isn't for me. Sounds somewhat similar to what I've read about "third-way cardio". Very effective for what some people are after.



But increasing my caloric expenditure would be quite counterproductive for me. Hard to get all the calories and sleep that I need now!



My weightwork is done in a similarly quick/intense manner like my cardio, none of those hour-long workouts as I'm completely played by the second or third work set of any lift (once my performance drops by more than ~25% I'm done making functional gains, took me a while to accept that).
 
hehe I guess I was trying to tackle too many angles at once.

There are multiple facets and multiple approaches that he covers.

It's hard to really break down for me because I mean, by the time I get through it, you'll probably have read the book sooner.

With cardiovascular conditioning, in a way, it's the ability for your body to efficiently handle stresses. Now, because a bunch of his routines are kind of time intensive, sometimes adding weight to it merely adds to the pressure or stress on the body to push through--at the end, your body exerts more force which means you need more oxygen, but because you can only take in so much at a time, your body learns to distribute the nutrients more efficiently with less strain.



What does this mean? Basically, as I alluded to earlier your VO2 capacity increases so that your body can get oxygen to your body better, which also means your heart is taxed less. End game is Cardiovascular efficiency. The studies he alludes to have numbers and figure and stuff..but I mean... I don't tend to memorize those things.



I should mention that just about all his "workouts" or complexes provide strict body weight, dumbell, barbell, kettle bell, and some kind of rope thing option so depending on what you're after, or what's available to you, you can work through it. Ultimately the book is a break down of the foundation and structure of a paradigm so that you can custom design your own routines following basic protocols.
 
Alexshimshimhae- OK, I oughta just read it. But that idea of combining cardio with weightwork simply isn't compatible with how I lift, at the very least it interferes with my focus and makes me have to switch to lighter/"safer" poundages, and that costs me strength.
 
hehe sorry, I tend to be bad at explaining things these days.



Generally, to improve cardiovascular endurance or overall condition, generally the methods of achieving it go hand in hand with the boost in metabolism. I suppose it's also worth mentioning that VISCERAL fat also plays a role. The fat that encases your organs and arteries, though small amounts are good because they're protection, many even THIN people turn out to have high levels of visceral fat, which impedes on their cardiovascular system's ability to function at it's optimal capacity.



It's tricky lol but the beauty of this system is that for instance, there's one complex that's designed for you to do something pretty much as hard and fast as you possibly can every time you do it (so there's no stalemate here because essentially you push your body to the brink every time) eventually you should see that your overall cardiovascular performance gets better,
 
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