The more I use my UDM...

Frito Bandito said:
Scott, that's not fair! I was just about ready to order a Hitachi before I read this! How is the vibration of the UDM compared to a PC?
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It is less, but not that much. One thing I really do like though, is when you use it one handed, the plastic cover over the head of the UDM doesn't rattle and buzz like the PC.



Tom-I'd say the UDM cuts at least as well as the Cyclo. I still plan on doing a comparison between all three machines but last Sunday, I got a flat and my free replacement certificates from Discount Tire don't help me when they are closed on Sundays and that is when I get a flat. Spent 3 hours at Wal-mart getting another, the tire center was mobbed!



I may be able to try them all out on an ML I have this Sunday but I also have to wash another ML and a BMW 650 at another customer's house who lives nearby so I have put my customer's first and comparisons second.
 
Also Scott how bad is the switch? Mine comes on monday and Lynn had the new switch installed before it left Autopia. I have not used the PC a lot but I don't see how I could ever turn it on/off by accident. I am expecting/hoping that the switch will just stay in its set position. Do you think that's a realistic expectation?



The rattle being gone is a very welcome improvement. Even if switch issues remain though, as long as it feels like a PC on '7' or '8' i think that i will be very happy. Would you say that's about how powerful it is?
 
Scottwax said:
I'd say the UDM cuts at least as well as the Cyclo.
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In other words, Cyclo cuts at least as well as PC? Why, in your opinion, people keep saying that Cyclo has no corrective abilities?
 
Scottwax said:
I'd say the UDM cuts at least as well as the Cyclo. I still plan on doing a comparison between all three machines but last Sunday, I got a flat and my free replacement certificates from Discount Tire don't help me when they are closed on Sundays and that is when I get a flat. Spent 3 hours at Wal-mart getting another, the tire center was mobbed!
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Scott, thanks for the initial comparison! Sorry to hear about the car trouble though. Must not have been fun being at Wal-mart all that time just for a tire.



Scottwax said:
I may be able to try them all out on an ML I have this Sunday but I also have to wash another ML and a BMW 650 at another customer's house who lives nearby so I have put my customer's first and comparisons second.
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Absolutely ... customer first and comparisons second. Looking forward to your review when you're able to do it.
 
ZoranC said:
In other words, Cyclo cuts at least as well as PC? Why, in your opinion, people keep saying that Cyclo has no corrective abilities?
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no no no...

Scott is saying that the UDM is comparable to the Cyclo in cutting ability, but both are superior to the PC.



in my short experience with the UDM, i find it fairly close to the Cyclo, but the Cyclo covers more space quicker and still seems to provide more torque, which to me allows for greater correction ability.



the way i see it, this is how i'd rate the 3 in terms of cutting ability:

Cyclo > UDM >> PC



the thing about the UDM is that it retains the great maneuverability of the PC design, which racks up the points with me.
 
FujiFast said:
no no no...

Scott is saying that the UDM is comparable to the Cyclo in cutting ability, but both are superior to the PC.



in my short experience with the UDM, i find it fairly close to the Cyclo, but the Cyclo covers more space quicker and still seems to provide more torque, which to me allows for greater correction ability.



the way i see it, this is how i'd rate the 3 in terms of cutting ability:

Cyclo > UDM >> PC
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I know. I was trying to flip statements around leading to my question. If UDM cuts at least as well as Cyclo (per Scott) and UDM cuts at least same as PC (until it is proven it cuts better) then Cyclo cuts at least as well as PC. So, per "Scott", Cyclo cuts at least as well as PC.



Also, my experience (FWIW) has been that Cyclo cuts better and faster than PC, maybe because it is easier for me to lean onto it without bogging it down.



Yet, I have seen number of posts here where people say Cyclo has no cutting ability.



So I was trying to ask Scott what he thinks why they say that, could it be my (lack of) experience/knowledge in use of PC, or could it be theirs with Cyclo.
 
Zoran, I think most people say that a Cyclo has more cutting power than a PC, while most also say it's no substitute for a rotary. Perhaps that's the confusion.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Zoran, I think most people say that a Cyclo has more cutting power than a PC, while most also say it's no substitute for a rotary. Perhaps that's the confusion.
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I don't think I have misinterpreted what they were saying. Statements were that Cyclo has no corrective abilities whatsoever, that it is good just for applying LSPs, and that was so contradicting to my impressions of Cyclo vs PC that I was left utterly confused with such comments.
 
ZoranC said:
I don't think I have misinterpreted what they were saying. Statements were that Cyclo has no corrective abilities whatsoever, that it is good just for applying LSPs, and that was so contradicting to my impressions of Cyclo vs PC that I was left utterly confused with such comments.
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Well, that's obviously just wrong. I don't think I remember anyone saying that a Cyclo has any less correction capability than a PC. The dispute was over whether it really had any more.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
I don't think I remember anyone saying that a Cyclo has any less correction capability than a PC. The dispute was over whether it really had any more.
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I will try to go back and find them when I have a moment because my reading of those posts was that they are saying it has none. Of course I would scratch my head on that and look at my Cyclo and wonder "What do you mean by none?".
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Sheesh, you don't have to go look, I believe you! I'm just saying it's obviously wrong.
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I know you believe me, I want to go and reread them to make sure I was not reading them wrong. And I too felt it is obviously wrong but then again I am noob, what do I know, I had impression those people had much more experience with both than I do.
 
The Cyclo will correct more and do it easier and faster than a Porter Cable......without question. I have both machines. I'm watching the UDM closely as the problems are corrected. If Scott likes it that's a very strong endorsement in my book. I don't care to deal with the screwy on/off switch or the short cord so I'll wait until those are addressed.
 
I just got my UDM.. it does have some nice power for corrections but it vibrates like mad. My hand that was holding on to the handle felt like it was on fire from the vibrations after doing about half a car with it on 6.
 
JayC said:
My hand that was holding on to the handle felt like it was on fire from the vibrations after doing about half a car with it on 6.
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Do not use the handle. I do not use handle neither on PC nor on UDM. Handle amplifies vibrations.
 
ZoranC said:
Do not use the handle. I do not use handle neither on PC nor on UDM. Handle amplifies vibrations.
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I really like having the handle.. but its unusable on high speeds. Im going to have to come up with something to dampen the vibrations.
 
That plate would require an adapter to work with a DA. Based on that and he doesn't have a rotary I doubt that he's using that plate.
 
SpoiledMan said:
That plate would require an adapter to work with a DA. Based on that and he doesn't have a rotary I doubt that he's using that plate.
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Hmm...he said he's using exceldetail's 6 inch backing plate, but there's no 6 inch plate for the PC on that site...
 
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