Swisswax Vs Zymol???

lbls1 said:
...you will find that the Vintage matures very nicely, and if handled right, will become ferociously vibrant...
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Heh heh, just had to :chuckle: at that choice of words...sorry, can't help myself :lol
 
Accumulator said:
Heh heh, just had to :chuckle: at that choice of words...sorry, can't help myself :lol
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i am at school right now, istting in a court yard. I read that and actully laughed out loud... I have like five people staring at me... but it was worth the laugh :LOLOL
 
*Heh Heh*......very funny............Accumulator just knows how to get back at me......you are hillarious pal!!!!!!!! Its great....it keeps the *ambience* of the thread alive (did youuuulikethatone?????)



Ok serious again. MDRX, yes I'd say that's a bit ambitious (eager). I'd definitely tail it off. Vintage is sensational when it ages a bit. The shine will seem much more crisp when its *accumulator* ed (see what you started pal....) slowly. Don't overdo it with the qd's though. If you can keep it out of the rain (rain washes off caked on carnauba like you would not believe!), and just go moderately with the qd (mild as always) then I think you should be in good shape.



The vintage is sumething isn't it????
 
you guys are mean.. i want vintage now... its just not fair.... i might hae to get it for a b-day present (from myself to myself)... its just hard to spend a semesters tution (well almost) on a wax... but i know ican do it..just no bar till chirstmas.... hmmmm
 
lbls1 said:
At least a week for Vintage. You can go as long as a month or a little more and still layer quite effectively with Vintaaaaaaaghe!
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You are correct Sir! I find the longer you wait, the better. No need to apply a 2nd layer withing 24 hours. Wait a week then apply 2nd layer. Wait 2 weeks, apply 3rd layer. After that, apply an additional layer about once a month. Where I live, I do light paint correction once a year and HD Cleanse twice. The color rendering is amazing when you're patient and layer correctly per your needs.



Some have asked about Atlantique. Side by side, it's very difficult for me to tell the difference. They're very close.



Some complain that Concours is hard to apply. I find it easy, but that's just my opinion. If you think Concours is difficult to apply, don't even consider purchasing Vintage. Vintage is harder to melt uniformly in your hands and is more difficult to spread. Add low humidity and the difficulty factor goes up exponentially.



I hope these comments have helped the op and others. Cheers!
 
lbls1 & others- Heh heh, well if we can't joke around about these mega-buck waxes what *can* we :nana: about :D





Vintage- Yeah, that's some good, helpful info- thanks for posting it. Interesting that *low* humidity makes for more trouble with Vintage :think:



Also interesting that layering is to be done so gradually. Could just be that I'm set in my ways, but I kinda find it hard to believe that one coat of wax is gonna give the protection I want :nixweiss



I do still wonder about the heat-from-hands issue. In cold weather my hands sometimes get/stay cold...another thing to :think:



Also appreiciate the comment on Atlantique. As it'd take me *years* to go through a jar of wax, that one might be a more sensible choice than Vintage (IIRC Atlantique is positioned between Concours and Vintage). Also, I won't be as displeased if I simply don't like how it looks/applies on the Jag.



Still waiting for somebody to apply one of these waxes to some aged ss lacquer. I'm guessing that my penultimate product might help with this, even if it does compromise the "purity" of the Zymol/Swissvax approach.
 
I don't find Concours hard to apply, I find it hard to remove. I thought Vintage was much easier to remove. Not *easy*, but not like Concours.
 
It reminds me of a bunch of Audiophiles. I guess with every hobby/profession things can be broken down to the absurd. We like it that way though, right guys? :D
 
jedovaty said:
The way you guys discuss these waxes reminds me of the way photographers talk about leica rangefinder lenses :D
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Good analogy :xyxthumbs I'm a Leica SLR guy myself, but I know exactly what you mean. Heh heh, even the most expensive wax is nothing compared to Leica glass though, so for me this is a pretty harmless indulgence :D Heh heh#2, we're a lot nicer group than the guys on the Leica forums though!



Picus- I'm getting tired of saying "ah...good info" but I really do find all the comments about these waxes interesting.
 
Jedo: Its funny you mention it. Take a very good digital side profile of your zymol. You may see a very well *articulated* reflected image. This is what I mean about range. A good zymol can make the reflected range from prepped paint seem more distant, or for closer range objects, it will appear smaller and more clear. This is the real talent that a zymol will have, that other lsps, by themselves, have great difficulty matching with the same intensity IMO.



Audience: Myself and the Accumulator have a long score to settle; Thus the waiting makes us antsy (sp), so to pass the time, we make ourselves laugh by taking good natured shots at each other. I must say, it seems that we're more aggressive than the past few hundred pages. Maybe we're realizing that we're punishing ourselves by constantly putting off trying a zymol.............interesting indeed!!!



Vintage: You make my point even more clear. Vintage has very amazing abilities in the lower layerings. The color rendering that it is capable of will just *blow you away* with the right handling. Vintage is that much better when it ages a little, so don't rush for the gloss with the extra coatings. In due time you'll have nothing but reflectivity and gloss.



Mike: School always comes first. Make sure you hit those books. Waxing you can do afterwards....(provided that zymol doesn't raise the prices...........again!)!



Accumulator: I just bought a new digital slr this past week. It is my new hobby..........taking pictures of yours truly with its Vintage finish. I'd show you, but I'm bashful and I don't want to crash this thread or be accused of "whoring" (ls1tech talk!).
 
That's actually a good point (the last one) lbls1 - I've noticed with Concorso, Destiny, Concours, Mystery, etc... that they do indeed deepen over time. I will be honest, when I first read about that I thought it was a bunch of BS, the idea that a wax will look better after 24 hours; but now that I've spent more time with them I see it.
 
lbls1 said:
Mike: School always comes first. Make sure you hit those books. Waxing you can do afterwards....(provided that zymol doesn't raise the prices...........again!)!
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Thanks, I spent a little to much timr partying the first year (or two). I have to relize if i want this lifestyle I need a good education

I am a very fortunite person. I have some money set aside for education so its not nessacerly the money, its the opperunity cost of such a wax(see i learned somthing)



This is a hobby, it always will be. I do odd paid jobs but i like it as a hobby.



I guees I just have to decide if i want to spend my enterainment budget for a while on a wax (which i know I will get use outa).

Ohh well these decisons are the ones that make life fun (no real decsion to be made. There is no real down side. Nothing serious, no one dies, nothing happens if I do or dont. But they are still fun to make)

Ohh wel I guees for now its titanium and VW :cooleek:



pehaps with some b-day money and other funds it will be mine... only time will tell :work:
 
Accumulator said:
Good analogy :xyxthumbs I'm a Leica SLR guy myself, but I know exactly what you mean. Heh heh, even the most expensive wax is nothing compared to Leica glass though, so for me this is a pretty harmless indulgence :D Heh heh#2, we're a lot nicer group than the guys on the Leica forums though!
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Hah, you can say that again (nicer people in these forums) :D But you see the same responses here why pay $$$ for BRAND X when BRAND G gets you similar results for fraction of price... ;)



I have some leica slr glass, too - I bought an $80 adapter to my dslr which also provides focus confirmation, and let me tell you, that was the best $80 I ever spent. Wowsers! :woot2:



Picus, yeah, you are right, exuberant appreciation for even the most banal of things exist, beyond speakers, computers, cameras, waxes... perhaps thanks to the internet (I have seen forums on shaving, root beer, etc etc). Sheesh :p
 
jedovatyI have some leica slr glass said:
Good move...I might oughta look into such a thing to use our Leice glass on the D200.



[quote name='calgarydetail']I guees I just have to decide if i want to spend my enterainment budget for a while on a wax (which i know I will get use outa)...
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Glad to hear it's just that sort of decision. And, heh heh, I know what you mean about realizing that you have to get serious about your education :o



lbls1 said:
Accumulator: I just bought a new digital slr this past week. It is my new hobby..........
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Yeah, we got our DSLR because we needed autofocus/auto everthing for the dogs and my wife is taking a zillion more pics than she ever did with film. Not the same quality, but at least she's getting some shots.



And I can honestly say that all this Zymol/SwissVax talk is getting me revved up about pulling the Jag and the RX-7 out of mothballs.



And no BS..in another world/lifetime I'd be trying that stuff on the S8.
 
Because brand G does not get you similar results.



jedovaty said:
Hah, you can say that again (nicer people in these forums) :D But you see the same responses here why pay $$$ for BRAND X when BRAND G gets you similar results for fraction of price... ;)



I have some leica slr glass, too - I bought an $80 adapter to my dslr which also provides focus confirmation, and let me tell you, that was the best $80 I ever spent. Wowsers! :woot2:



Picus, yeah, you are right, exuberant appreciation for even the most banal of things exist, beyond speakers, computers, cameras, waxes... perhaps thanks to the internet (I have seen forums on shaving, root beer, etc etc). Sheesh :p
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MDRX8 said:
Because brand G does not get you similar results.
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Heh heh, and therein lies the rub, whether we're talking wax, audio, or optics (or a host of other topics) :D



With everybody being different, the subjective evaluation of those results and the ?similar/not? factor sure do keep a lot of subjects on a full boil :D



Something I find interesting along those lines: I don't see too much disagreement between the proponents of these "exotic waxes". While a few Autopians have tried the EGs and said they just don't notice anything special, the people who *do* appreciate them seem to be in general agreement about what they experience.



Heh heh, I really *am* trying to apply critical thinking to this topic ;)
 
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