Six Way LSP test

How about Ultima, Z-CS, and OS on the hood. That would be a great test, since all 3 of those are the latest wipe on, walk away products.
 
Bence said:
...and keep in mind that engine heat influences the LSPs. My hood always shows the first signs of decreasing LSP performance where the exhaust header & cat is located.
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While you do have a great point, I think a hood test is the best way to really give it the real world test. You then can test for heat durability and it's melting point and find which one breaks down faster under excessive heat. A car sitting in the hot sun gets hotter than the heat from an engine anyway.



I can't wait to see the end results. I will have to do one in a few months when it starts snowing and the salt is in the air. I have quite a few durable products to try also.



Great job Todd!!
 
rydawg said:
While you do have a great point, I think a hood test is the best way to really give it the real world test. You then can test for heat durability and it's melting point and find which one breaks down faster under excessive heat. A car sitting in the hot sun gets hotter than the heat from an engine anyway...
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Yes, Ryan, it can be generalized that if something lasts on a hood then it'll last everywhere. But when the heat can dissipate downwards, when for example the sun heats up the trunklid but there is a fair amount of air beneath it, and the heat stress is not that high. When the hood is constantly grilled by the sun and by the engine at the same time, the heat can not escape, hence the indicator point will still be the header & catalyst area with transverse engines. Longitudinal engines can hide their exhausts & cats deep down in safe distances.



Obviously we have to count in the mechanical abrasion as well, which does its work at the leading edge.



So when a hood is divided into - say - 6 or 8 pieces, then we must ensure equal heat stress, equal mechanical abrasion, and overall conditions. Otherwise th results will still be skewed to be inaccurate.
 
If you want, I can test all the wipeon-walkaway products vs each other as well. I would need some Opti-Seal though...
 
TH0001 said:
If you want, I can test all the wipeon-walkaway products vs each other as well. I would need some Opti-Seal though...
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I can send you some. I can send you some Carnauba Moose too if you want.
 
Scottwax said:
I can send you some. I can send you some Carnauba Moose too if you want.
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Sure Scott, shoot me an email at [email protected]. Appericate it. If anybody else wants something tested, I would be more then willing to oblige.



I should add that I was doing inventory this morning, and my sample of Ultima's cap was loose. I don't think this will be a problem, but I did read David's post regarding oxygen getting into the product. I want to make sure this is as far and balanced as possible.
 
How are you going to Quantitatively gauge each? Or is this test more a comparison of visual/touch (Qualitatively) gauge?



I really like the idea, I was going to do one with tire shine products and divide each tire in 4th and do 16 products.



I just need to decide upon how to best gauge the results in a meaningful way.
 
Greg Nichols said:
How are you going to Quantitatively gauge each? Or is this test more a comparison of visual/touch (Qualitatively) gauge?



I really like the idea, I was going to do one with tire shine products and divide each tire in 4th and do 16 products.



I just need to decide upon how to best gauge the results in a meaningful way.
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Good question.



I know that the appearance is going to be subjective, so I will try to have other autopian's chime in from time to time.



I will gauge depth, shine, ect to the best I can.



One area that will defiently shine thru though is durability. It will be intresting to see how long each product holds its appearance and water beading characteristics compared to others. This will be the effect that will be easist to capture on the camera and takes the subjectivity out of it.



In all fairness, this type of test is stacked against a carnauba like Zymol and I think everybody will not be shocked if it finishes last, but we will see if the amazing shine it produces (assuming it will be better than everything else) lasts and how long it truely lasts against sealants.



The other thing I'm sure people are tuning to see is durabity in general. Is Zaino still king? Is Ultima the new champ? How is Meguiars #16, once renouned for its durability and pretty much unchanged since the 1950s, gonna stack up against the new guys. What about the new resin based DeepSwax, which claims unbeatable durabilty, is it in over its heads?
 
TH0001 said:
Is Zaino still king? Is Ultima the new champ? How is Meguiars #16, once renouned for its durability and pretty much unchanged since the 1950s, gonna stack up against the new guys. What about the new resin based DeepSwax, which claims unbeatable durabilty, is it in over its heads?
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TH0001 said:
Is Zaino still king? Is Ultima the new champ? How is Meguiars #16, once renouned for its durability and pretty much unchanged since the 1950s, gonna stack up against the new guys. What about the new resin based DeepSwax, which claims unbeatable durabilty, is it in over its heads?
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I don't see how you alone without a test panel of people will be able to judge correctly. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against it. But you alone are the judge. The test should have controls that you can not provide, like a stable environment, equal applications, etc... But it will give a very broad view of the products. Good luck!!! JMHO
 
If you guys have a bunch of different products lying around, you should do your own X-way LSP test at the same time too, then we can have a lot of different results from different parts of the country, etc. I'd try this out too, but I don't have a machine yet, and I'm not pro like most on here, so my results would suck, haha. :bigups
 
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