Reviewed: The EDGE ShMITT

Defense? I posted proof of the complete opposite of what you've been saying about sheepskin! Criticizing? That's what you've been doing about sheepskin!



That's my point in all this. I responded to the Edge on DC crashing a non-sponsored forum thread about sea sponges. I relayed my opinion of the Shmitt and why I liked the sea sponge better after he criticized it and then offered up his mitt.



It's the both of you who need counseling! The need to bash other wash tools in order to elevate the Shmitt (and then not to expect and /or take criticism) is food for thought for the ol' psych couch.



We can go around this mulberry bush all night long, but I'm sure others are getting bored (or amused) so I'm signing off this one.
 
Ok, this horse walks into a bar and the bartender says, "hey buddy, why the long face?"

I don't where that came from but it fell out of my head so there. Anyway, I've used sponges, MF mitts, MF covered sponges, half MF half sponge (God, I love Target) and the old chenile mitts and sponges. Never stuck my hand (or anything else) in sheep, so I can't say nothing bout them, that stated, the opinions of those that have used the schmitt both here and on DC seem to be positive and I'm willing to try them, hey got to add something to the Edge2K pad order for the free shipping. (at Autogeek)
 
This will work for the DIY'er but for me no. I wash 20+ cars a week and that would mean alot of mitts.
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I can see that. :) I'd certainly see the benefit of a foam mitt for that kinda volume.
 
I don't know if anyone is schilling for the Schmitt and if the product is hyped up or not, but it wasn't like he was putting any particular sheepskin mitt down. He's just generalizing them and in my experience, I've had the same problem he's had with sheepskin mitts. I am sure there are pros/cons to both sheepskins and the Schmitt. I'm sure there are plenty of us on here that don't use sheepskin and have stuck with sponges, chenille, or microfiber mitts for the same reason Justin has mentioned.



I still don't know where the grit goes with the Schmitt, but as hard as that is for me to believe, it's harder to believe anyone getting 100+ uses out of all their sheepskin mitts. I think part of the reason the 2 of you are butting heads has to do with Spilchy not accepting Justin's claims, which is fine, but at the same time how can you put down a product you've never used before? At least Justin has used sheepskin mitts in the past for his business. He must have loved them at some point until he tried out the schmitt.



Ultimately, it's hard to know if anyone is schilling on here or just giving an honest opinion. You just have to take everything with a grain of salt. With all the product that Justin's been reviewing, even if he is schilling for AutoGeek, eventually it'll bite him in the *** if the products don't live up to the Autopian standard.
 
For the record, I believe Justin is giving his honest opinion (no shilling) as am I. I have used the Shmitt and didn't care for it (I could barely get my hand in there!). There *are* some of us (many?) that don't care for it. Maybe I'm more vocal.



I apologize for being so boorish if I have come across that way. My Beef is honestly not with Justin (I enjoy his details), but with the advertising that unfairly and wrongly (in my opinion and experiences) bash sheepskin and then get bent when called out on it.



Honestly, I apologize in the open to Justin if he felt I was being nasty to him. But I still stand by my sheepskin as my pictures tried to convey (maybe in a nicer fashion).
 
but with the advertising that unfairly and wrongly (in my opinion and experiences) bash sheepskin and then get bent when called out on it.
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I agree, there is a line one steps over when bashing a competing product to the point of telling lies.
 
I guess my concern is that, in my opinion, they are unable to formulate a positive marketing campaign to sell their product based on its own merits. Rather, they have to unfairly bash the sheepskin. I read their site and my sheepskins have NEVER performed or looked like that mitt even after washing a horribly dirty car. It always rinsed clean with a vigorous shake in my 5 gallon rinse bucket with Grit Guard. Then there is a feeling of astonishment once they are called out on it.



I think they can create a great marketing campaign because it is so unique. There is nothing that looks like it. They can list all it's attributes. But to smear one of THE most popular wash tools, the sheepskin, in order to elevate the Shmitt, is to invite criticism from the likes of me.
 
Spilchy, I didn't mean to come off as attacking you. I'm just going by what I've read on here so far. I haven't visited DC nor Edge's site, so I'm probably missing part of the story here.
 
Spilchy said:
I have used the Shmitt and didn't care for it (I could barely get my hand in there!). There *are* some of us (many?) that don't care for it. Maybe I'm more vocal.
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*I edited my post after seeing this*



If the mitt was larger for your hand, would you like it. If not, why?
 
I used it Dave! I have one. I didn't care for it and prefer other wash tools. I just didn't appreciate the attacks on those wash tools in order to elevate the Shmitt.



Why not a boars hair brush? Accumulator washes with one without an ounce of marring. I like them too. Should a thread start about one I *guarantee* the Edge would chime in (in my opinion, crash), ask why (in a certain tone) anyone would use such an archaic tool and then offer up theirs as the Holy Grail when the thread was about a bunch of guys talking about boars hair brushes! And then get upset when someone doesn't agree, like their product ,or appreciate the content of their post.
 
GregCavi said:
Is it me or is the mitt on the page look like a synthetic rather than a 100% sheepskin?



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They never said it was 100% sheepskin... rather 'wool'. So that is probably an immitation wool (like Meguiars Gold Class Wash Mitt) rather than real sheepskin. I got fed up with sheepskins so I am trying different options. The shmitt and sea sponges are the newest additions to my wash routine. I left a lot of dirty spots on the car when using the shmitt but that could have been me not appling enough pressure. What I like about the sea sponge is that the dirt has someplace to go, unline the shmitt where is is still on the outside of the car or the pad. My hand doesn't fit well in the shmitt so I just hold it on the yellow part... no big deal.



BTW Spilchy said he has used the shmitt...
 
GregCavi said:
Is it me or is the mitt on the page look like a synthetic rather than a 100% sheepskin?



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And synthetics do NOT rinse dirt as easy as genuine sheepskin. Nice post Greg. I can't say for certain what that is a picture of so I won't assume it is. They don't mention.



I have the Meguiar's and SM Arnold synthetic "sheepskin" and I have the problem that the advertisement mentions (trapped dirt). I reserve those mitts for a nasty car that will receive a full polishing regimen.



My genuine sheepskins rinse 100% clean with a dunk in the rinse bucket.
 
Mikeyc said:
Flish, I didn't know you were using a ShMitt! I don't think you ever mentioned it over on S2KI. Glad to hear you like it!







There are plenty of panties that get ruffled around here too. That's all I'll say because that's not what this thread is all about.



Anyway, I would love to hear your regimen for sheepskin mitt care. Personally, I don't count how many washes I get out of a mitt but I know my ShMItt has far outlasted my sheepskins and with significantly less effort put into care. I don't even put my ShMitt in the washing machine. I just hose it off and it's like new. I could never do this with sheepskin because the knap would lay down after one wash and the only way I could fluff it up would be to put it in the machine. Sure the ShMitt costs more, but my time and wear and tear on my washing machine are worth money to me too.
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Heck yes, I got one after your review over on S2KI. check that post and you'll see my comments. I had been using Sheepskin prior and was getting micro scratches even using double bucket washing. I figured try the ShMitt couldn't be any worse than I was experiencing with sheepskin.



I've retired the sheepskins to the use on the Jeep and Explorer. They seem to have tougher clearcoat and don't show the micro defects.
 
David Fermani said:
*I edited my post after seeing this*



If the mitt was larger for your hand, would you like it. If not, why?
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Why would he want a second one? He doesn't like the one he already has. ;)



Seriously though, I think we can all agree that the sheepskin is a solid wash tool. I am admitedly shocked to hear that someone has gotten 100 washes out of one though, but I 100% believe Seth if he said that he did. Personally, I've never had one last anywhere near that long for me. The last sheepskin I had before I switched to a ShMitt tore in my washing machine after 1 or 2 uses. Of course, that's the exception but it was the last straw for me.



I've been very happy with the ShMitt since I got it and it's performed flawlessly with nearly zero effort toward up keep. Although the issues people encounter with sheepskin are probably exagerated on the Edge website, I can say I was having some of the problems noted. The knap would lay down, the mitt would tear at the seams, the wool would get rough, and hairs would end up on the car.



I don't think anyone here is bashing sheepskin really because there is no doubt it's a good wash tool. However, every product has it's flaws and the sheepskin is no exception. The sheepskin's flaws are certainly ones that can be mitigated to some degree but they will never disappear. Of course, these issues and the time it takes to mitigate them are more important to some people and less to others.



Seth, you seem more upset that Aaron crashed your thread than anything else. Personally, sea sponges scare the bejesus out of me. The last time I bought one it came from the store loaded with sand and sea shell particles.
 
Spilchy said:
And synthetics do NOT rinse dirt as easy as genuine sheepskin. I can't say for certain what that is a picture of so I won't assume it is.



I have the Meguiar's and SM Arnold synthetic "sheepskin" and I have the problem that the advertisement mentions (trapped dirt). I reserve those mitts for a nasty car that will receive a full polishing regimen.



My genuine sheepskins rinse 100% clean with a dunk in the rinse bucket.
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Here are the synthetic ones I use for cleaning wheels. Just like the one in the ShMITT ad.



1 after 2 uses and the other after about 100. A little different huh?



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Close up of my new one with dirt embedded in it (after washing it out):

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David Fermani said:
Here are the synthetic ones I use for cleaning wheels. Just like the one in the ShMITT ad.



1 after 2 uses and the other after about 100. A little different huh?



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Close up of my new one with dirt embedded in it (after washing it out):

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This is what I'm talking about. I am not bashing but stating facts. Look here. FACTS!
 
Yeah, for synthetic sheepskin for washing wheels as David stated.



I don't even use my genuine sheepskin for washing wheels.



Plus, I believe the advertising doesn't refer to washing wheels with it.



I would imagine washing wheels with sheepskin would look like that!



If they were advertising there to prove how much better the wheel shmitt was compared to synthetic sheepskin for washing wheels I would concur a 1000% with them. That advertising would be much more accurate.



We're talking about genuine sheepskin washing body panels. So, in my opinion, I disagree with the "facts."



I have synthetic sheepskin as I indicated and have the problems noted such as trapped dirt. I do not have this issue with genuine sheepskin!



We're starting to compare apples and oranges! David's mitt is not sheepskin!!!!!
 
To make things even more complicated :aww: I prefer the Meguiars wool mitt (Ultra Plush ) to the Eurow sheepskin mitts. Never tried the Schmitt though, so won't comment on that, but would be nice to try one.
 
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