Reviewed: EDGE Wheel ShMitt

Hey Justin -- you sure are receiving a lot of flack for this ShMitt thing, aren't you?



Gotta LOVE IT!
 
P1et said:
Hey Justin -- you sure are receiving a lot of flack for this ShMitt thing, aren't you?



Gotta LOVE IT!





I thinks it's because of all the ads in his signature on another forum and all the positive reviews of what appear to be free products that he *appears* to be a shill.
 
SpoiledMan said:
I thinks it's because of all the ads in his signature on another forum and all the positive reviews of what appear to be free products that he *appears* to be a shill.



Maybe the reason the ads are there and the positive remarks too are because they actually work.



You don't see me popping in on other's posts here and talking bad about a product that I haven't even tried do you?



When you think about it, detailing is 75% technique and 25% product........maybe less. Most results are from experience and prep work. Most good detailers can take a tin of Turtle Wax and apply to a well prepped car and get stellar results with good prep. Durability wouldn't be there and you would get made fun of here but it would look good.
 
SpoiledMan said:
Are you inferring that I'm commenting on something that I haven't used? You're likely wrong.:)



I don't know what most do use because I don't see many taking time to do reviews. All I see are people making smart ellic comments. And I don't know why. This is the only forum that does this. I know of 25 PMs I have recieved thanking me for this single review......here and on other forums.
 
So the reasons I'm getting slack is because Im sent 20 bucks in free products?



That would be jealousy?



Hope not.....
 
SpoiledMan said:
Are you inferring that I'm commenting on something that I haven't used? You're likely wrong.:)

I'm not calling YOU jealous at all. Please don't take me attacking you SM.



Please.
 
justin30513 said:
I'm not calling YOU jealous at all. Please don't take me attacking you SM.



Please.



:o OK, cool. Just some advice. What usually happens when someone reviews a product that they received for free is that they state so in their review. I think that if you do that in the future that you wont have problems such as this. :hifive:
 
SpoiledMan said:
:o OK, cool. Just some advice. What usually happens when someone reviews a product that they received for free is that they state so in their review. I think that if you do that in the future that you wont have problems such as this. :hifive:



Understood.

I didn't think it would matter because I've posted reviews of Meguiars products and most responded by telling me it was crap. I had just spent 100.00+ on what was getting called crap. I didn't think a free 12.00 mitt would make a difference.



Thanks for understanding and showing me SM. You are welled respected here. Believe me, I can take constructive criticism. I appreciate you and your comments.
 
Maybe it's just me, but washing the car with what is essentially a foam PC pad doesn't seem like a good idea. Where is the dirt/grit to go? There's no nap. And it certainly seems like the grit would be more difficult to rinse/clean out of foam pores than from between the fibers of a chenille/sheepskin mitt.

Also, I find it much easier to clean lug nut holes with a fibrous medium such as a sheepskin mitt, rather than trying to shove a bunch of foam into the hole. The bunches of foam will not contour to the lugs and walls like a fibrous material could.



No, I have not tried this product.
 
White95Max said:
Maybe it's just me, but washing the car with what is essentially a foam PC pad doesn't seem like a good idea. Where is the dirt/grit to go? There's no nap. And it certainly seems like the grit would be more difficult to rinse/clean out of foam pores than from between the fibers of a chenille/sheepskin mitt.

Also, I find it much easier to clean lug nut holes with a fibrous medium such as a sheepskin mitt, rather than trying to shove a bunch of foam into the hole. The bunches of foam will not contour to the lugs and walls like a fibrous material could.



No, I have not tried this product.



And that is a valid point. All I'm asking is to try one out......one time. EDGE will refund you if you are not happy. Simple. If you don't want to.......ok.



It does contour to holes and such. Look at my pics.



There is no nap on the foam to hold dirt and sticks either. I know. I used 2-3 wool mitts per week when I started out. I spent alot of time going around and removing fibers from emblems. Not a big deal when you do one car per week but I was doing 5-10 per day. I was not happy with it and just was OPEN to something new. It works. I know of guys washing Bentleys and Lambos with the ShMitt everyday. I don't think most here realize that there are 100s of 1000s of these already sold.
 
I'd rather remove fibers from emblems than have to repolish a panel to remove new swirls that were caused by trapped dirt.



Edge will refund my money minus shipping costs, so it's not worth it to me. I could just wait until one of my PC pads starts to separate from the velcro, stick my hand between there, and wash my car with it. But...I won't. ;) I have tried lots of things, and prefer sheepskin mitts for the overall quality of wash and ease of use. And I rarely have to pick fibers out of emblems. The Excel sheepskin mitt I've been using to clean wheels for the last year is just starting to fall apart.



One more thing...I'm confused on how a foam pad could effectively clean tires. Maybe it could clean my tires satisfactorily, but not a typical client's tires. Those often require some pretty heavy scrubbing with a tire brush to remove all the built-up dirt, oil, etc... The smooth surface of a foam pad would seem like it'd smear the contaminants around, rather than picking them up and removing them from the tire.
 
White95Max said:
I'd rather remove fibers from emblems than have to repolish a panel to remove new swirls that were caused by trapped dirt.



Edge will refund my money minus shipping costs, so it's not worth it to me. I could just wait until one of my PC pads starts to separate from the velcro, stick my hand between there, and wash my car with it. But...I won't. ;) I have tried lots of things, and prefer sheepskin mitts for the overall quality of wash and ease of use. And I rarely have to pick fibers out of emblems. The Excel sheepskin mitt I've been using to clean wheels for the last year is just starting to fall apart.



One more thing...I'm confused on how a foam pad could effectively clean tires. Maybe it could clean my tires satisfactorily, but not a typical client's tires. Those often require some pretty heavy scrubbing with a tire brush to remove all the built-up dirt, oil, etc... The smooth surface of a foam pad would seem like it'd smear the contaminants around, rather than picking them up and removing them from the tire.



I have not experienced any scratched or swirls on any color or finish.

BTW.......isn't wool used in buffing pads too.....cutting pads I believe.

So you can see how a pad will remove clear coat but can't remove dirt from rubber?

It works.....simple. It has on 30+ vehicles. You simply have to step out and try something new. Sorta like MF's over terry towells.
 
justin30513 said:
I have not experienced any scratched or swirls on any color or finish.

BTW.......isn't wool used in buffing pads too.....cutting pads I believe.

So you can see how a pad will remove clear coat but can't remove dirt from rubber?



Indeed it is, but it's not used to polish a car when it's saturated with a soapy lubricating solution, is it?

The pad doesn't remove clear coat. It's the abrasives in the polish that do the cutting.
 
Hey Guys...



Can we keep this civil??? If you don't like the product that Justin has reviewed then don't purchase it. Justin has admitted that he received the products for free and has done an extensive review of the product in return.



If you don't like the product or don't think it will be useful than don't buy it. Its that simple !!!



We appreciate him taking the time to do the review. I like most Autopians and detailers are always looking for new products.



Keep this post civil or its going to get locked...plain and simple.



Bashing is prohitibed on this forum. :nono
 
I'm merely expressing my opinions and backing them up with justification. My posts were not meant to question Justin's opinions or credibility.

If people always post the same opinions as the thread starter, how would any discussion begin?
 
You are free to express your opinions. However, when they border on personal attacks on other members then it won't be tolerated. A review has been posted. The member admitted that he received the product for free. If you feel that the product won't fit into your detailing arsenal then don't buy it.



This forum is about product discussion. When it becomes heated then the thread will get locked.
 
Also, unless you try it or you know someone that did and had bad results, you are only speculating.



I'm new to detailing but I wonder what the chatter was about Microfiber. Nowadays, it's the only material that should ever touch your paint. But what was going on when people first started using it? There must have been some people that swore by their 100% American-Made cotton bath towels and diaper cloths that said why would anyone use polyester to dry and polish their paint? The Shmitt might not be the next miracle product, but then again...



I admit that I'm intrigued about it.



By the way, I am not affiliated with Edge or Justin. I did not receive any products for free. I wish I would! Hello, anyone?
 
hooked said:
I'm new to detailing but I wonder what the chatter was about Microfiber. Nowadays, it's the only material that should ever touch your paint. But what was going on when people first started using it? There must have been some people that swore by their 100% American-Made cotton bath towels and diaper cloths that said why would anyone use polyester to dry and polish their paint?



Exactly. It takes disagreement and discussion to advance in methodology.



Yes, I am only speculating. But I gave my reasons for being skeptical, as anyone should. Being skeptical without justification--merely for the point of being cynical--is useless in discussion.
 
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