Removing vs hiding

Scottwax said:
I've had great luck using Optimum Polish with a Meguiars polishing pad removing rotary swirls and holograms. Honestly, I find that most rotary swirls come out more easily that spider/halo swirls.
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Are you using a rotary or pc for the above process ??
 
Scottwax said:
I've had great luck using Optimum Polish with a Meguiars polishing pad removing rotary swirls and holograms. Honestly, I find that most rotary swirls come out more easily that spider/halo swirls.
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Are you using a rotary or pc for the above process ??
 
Fallguy said:
Are you using a rotary or pc for the above process ??
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PC-and pics for proof-



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turbomangt said:
I had a customer bring me a car that was detailed elsewhere and he heard about me after the fact. When he got the car back from X detailer it looked fine. a month later he saw the same swirls come back. Since I rarely use a rotary (seems like I have not mastered it) due to the fact I introduce more swirls, my go to machines are the DeWalt 443 and the cyclo. It seems to work fine using a more aggessive pad and compound for paint correcting. I wondered what other people are using that don't use the rotary much for removing swirls. Feedback appreciated. Gary
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Something like this? I had this little beauty in today to remove the HEAVY swirling that covered 100% of the paint on this 2005 Vibe. The woman was almost in tears. Apparently heavy compounding was the "detailer" she used's preferred method for removing the overspray she was trying to have removed. He is now out of business - sound familiar? Sorry for the crappy photo but all I had handy was my camera phone and the lady had to jam before I got a chance to take an after shot.
 

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Heh heh, maybe someone who didn't know what they were doing ;) We were just discussing, on another thread, how even diamond cut can break down really well if you use the rotary right. Bet that job was a bit of a challenge!
 
Accumulator said:
Heh heh, maybe someone who didn't know what they were doing ;) We were just discussing, on another thread, how even diamond cut can break down really well if you use the rotary right. Bet that job was a bit of a challenge!
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It actually wasn't that bad - just time consuming. All in all it turned out great and the customer was thrilled.
 
I can't tell you how many times I have detailed a "detailed" car. The last one I did was a black BMW 5 series that was compounded with a wool pad and a heavy cut compound. Swirl city!



I used my rotary with a foam cutting pad and DACP, followed by Meguiars #9 with my PC to remove the swirls, LSP was Meguiars #20 polymer sealant. I did this car last fall, and it still looks good!
 
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Prior to finding Autopia, I used to think there was some type of miracle product that dealers/autobody used to hide swirls. Having been here for a few years now, I have yet to hear of a single product that effectively hides swirls, let alone makes them fully disappear! NXT hype made it seem like it was would be it but it never worked out to be the paramount swirl hiding glaze. There are products that leave a bit of filler behind to minimize the appearance of swirls but I can not recall a single product developed to hide them completely.



My personal belief is that unless the detailer informs the owner how to properly wash a vehicle. They'll end up swirling the vehicle again in no time flat. Watching some of my neighbours wash their cars every weekend, 2 or 3 of their washes and bang, swirl city.



I doubt very highly a month or 2 after a detail when swirls begin to reappear that it is a function of the bodyshop/detailer but more of the owner.



That being said, that VIBE is down right horrible. Scott, aren't you hooked up with the Pontiac dealer or is he soley the Chevy/Caddy side? How can your buddy let some one work there that does such horrible work!!! At least it provides you with a constant stream of customers :-)



Paco
 
paco said:
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Prior to finding Autopia, I used to think there was some type of miracle product that dealers/autobody used to hide swirls. Having been here for a few years now, I have yet to hear of a single product that effectively hides swirls, let alone makes them fully disappear! NXT hype made it seem like it was would be it but it never worked out to be the paramount swirl hiding glaze. There are products that leave a bit of filler behind to minimize the appearance of swirls but I can not recall a single product developed to hide them completely.



My personal belief is that unless the detailer informs the owner how to properly wash a vehicle. They'll end up swirling the vehicle again in no time flat. Watching some of my neighbours wash their cars every weekend, 2 or 3 of their washes and bang, swirl city.



I doubt very highly a month or 2 after a detail when swirls begin to reappear that it is a function of the bodyshop/detailer but more of the owner.



That being said, that VIBE is down right horrible. Scott, aren't you hooked up with the Pontiac dealer or is he soley the Chevy/Caddy side? How can your buddy let some one work there that does such horrible work!!! At least it provides you with a constant stream of customers :-)



Paco
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That wasn't done by a dealer but some dummy that rented a bay off a local car rental place. He was there for a few months and then gone. As for my buddy, they are tied up in several GM dealerships and could care less about doing a quality job (sound familiar from a dealer?). Dealers only care about a good job after someone complains.
 
Doesn't Zaino's Z-5 claim to "fill in swirls"?



It must not have been too successful, seeing as they had to come out with the abrasive ZPC.
 
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