Random orbital + SwirlX = holograms?

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BluBrett

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I am so confused; I have never had this problem before! I can't get rid of my extremely light holograms with my random orbital and SwirlX together, the mildest thing I own.



Edit: fixed. Got a mircofiber pad.
 
BluBrett said:
I am so confused; I have never had this problem before! I can't get rid of my extremely light holograms with my random orbital and SwirlX together, the mildest thing I own.
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What pad are you using and what type of vehicle is it?
 
I used a foam pad and then tried a Terry cloth pad, and both left holograms. I am 100% positive they are holograms because I wiped down with Dawn an then tried claying. I also QD'd it. It's a gray 2000 Chevrolet Tahoe.
 
BluBrett said:
I used a foam pad and then tried a Terry cloth pad, and both left holograms. I am 100% positive they are holograms because I wiped down with Dawn an then tried claying. I also QD'd it. It's a gray 2000 Chevrolet Tahoe.
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The movement of a random orbital polisher doesn't leave holograms. holograms are from the circular movement of a rotary polisher.



How are Holograms Formed? – Detailed Image



Any chance you can get a pic of what your seeing? Also, what foam pad are you using? It's possible the pad itself is causing marring in the paint.
 
RaskyR1 said:
The movement of a random orbital polisher doesn't leave holograms. holograms are from the circular movement of a rotary polisher.



How are Holograms Formed? – Detailed Image



Any chance you can get a pic of what your seeing? Also, what foam pad are you using? It's possible the pad itself is causing marring in the paint.
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I threw some NXT on to temporarily cover up whatever it is. I'll clay it again this weekend and try a different pad to remove the marring. I've never used this orbital on the Tahoe before, only on my old white Acura. Maybe I just didn't notice the marring on white.
 
BluBrett said:
I threw some NXT on to temporarily cover up whatever it is. I'll clay it again this weekend and try a different pad to remove the marring. I've never used this orbital on the Tahoe before, only on my old white Acura. Maybe I just didn't notice the marring on white.
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What orbital do you have?
 
WMD-DFW said:
:werd: Terry cloth im guessing its the $30 walmart random orbital
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Nope the $30 Pep Boys Black and Decker random orbital buffer :). It does a great job for me until I can afford another Makita.
 
WMD-DFW said:
Yea thats not really a buffer just a high powered vibrator/wax spreader
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The main thing I was trying to remove on my 1995 Acura Legend was/is oxidation. The swirls could be worked out later, but the oxidation has to go. With the tecnique I have I can get ~85-90% correction with a random orbital buffer (at least on my Tahoe's paint.)
 
I know it wont remove anything gnarly in your finish like a rotary will, but it does remove oxidation and it does remove light swirls (even if it does take a long time) example taken a couple hours ago on my previously swirled car:



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It looked like this in the sun too, except it had the marring that the terry cloth induced.
 
Im just saying dont expect a tool not made for the job be able to do the job of removing holograms effectively if it all
 
WMD-DFW said:
Im just saying dont expect a tool not made for the job be able to do the job of removing holograms effectively if it all
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What I thought were holograms were actually marring from the terry cloth pad. It came out fine once I used a microfiber pad. Again, I'm sorry if you hate random orbitals, but it does what I want it to do until I plunk down the money for a new makita.
 
Note that while "true holograms" are a rotary-induced phenomenon, that's just a hair-splitting matter of semantics- they're marring, i.e., "scratches", just a specific type. While *some* holograms are heat related, and those can be a PIA to correct, most always they're just very light, shallow scratches.



In this case, I woulda called the marring in question "micromarring", but eh... who cares what it is as long as it gets resolved :nixweiss



BlueBrett- Once you mentioned "terry" I knew what was going on :D Glad you found the MF solution to that :xyxthumbs



With the RO you're using, I'd just give a little consideration to how well it'll break down any diminishing-abrasive product. Other than that I don't see any problem unless/until you run into situations where you need more oomph, and hey, you already *know* what it can do, huh?
 
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