Quickie Review: M105

I used the M105 last night, and initial response is very nice stuff.



It was about 40 in the garage, so I think the compound acted up. It seem to gum up the wool even when I used 3 drops per panel. It also seem to "paste" up quickly on the paint, and when it did it was tough to wipe off.



I still learning how to respond to this compound, I think I worked it too long.....shorter than Presta or SIP but I think it only needs about 30sec/2x2 area. Multiple reworkings are much better than a single heavy working.



I tried it with a white CCS pad and it worked very well on plastics.



I followed all this up with a blue CCS and Final Polish, which seem to work very well. I'll pull it out later today for a look in the sun.



For the price and quality of the compound this looks to be a landmark product. I just need to figure out some things. I'm sure it will save me time on hard details, it saved me time last night and I was learning how to use the product!



Cheers,

GREG
 
Greg,



I experienced similar results the first time I used M105.



A few tips:



~Do not apply too much or too little product. It requires just the right amount to work correctly.



~Apply the product onto the panel instead of the pad (recommended by Meguiars)



~Clean the pad after every panel (*very* important)



~Do not apply pressure



~Only work the product for a short time until it is dried up. If you work it too long, you will marr the paint with the pad and cause the product to dust and gum up as you experienced. Meguiars designed this compound for quick results. It is not meant to be worked like other compounds you are used to.



You are correct that multiple reworkings are much better than a single heavy working. In my opinion, 30 seconds for a 2x2 area sounds like too long.



Here is a video if you haven't already seen it: YouTube - Ultra-Cut Compound 105 in Action
 
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I kept spurring the pad every panel



I applied the product to the panel



I tired to let the machine weight do the pressure



I'm sure the real reason for the gum is I worked it longer than suppose to. I also think the temp of the paint contributed to the gumming. I will shorten the working time and see what happens.



Is three pea size drops per standard panel (door) too much?



Cheers,

GREG
 
Greg Nichols said:
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This is the value of this forum. You can discuss a products and get feedback ASAP, rather than toss the product or call it poorly made. Manufacturers could make a lot of head way by contributing to this forum.



I kept spurring the pad every panel



I applied the product to the panel



I tired to let the machine weight do the pressure



I'm sure the real reason for the gum is I worked it longer than suppose to. I also think the temp of the paint contributed to the gumming. I will shorten the working time and see what happens.



Is three pea size drops per standard panel (door) too much?



Cheers,

GREG
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Greg, I was just giving advice to someone else on this same topic, so I will copy it here.



As for the amount of product to use, there are a lot of factors that come into play. It all depends on the type of pad you are using (foam, wool or foamed wool, etc..), size of the pad, agressiveness of the pad, temperature you are working in, humidity level, type of paint, etc., so there is not a simple answer to the question.



If I were you, I would just take your time and test out some different pads to see what works the best for you. Working with a new product is a lot of trial and error. I would recommend using your own judgement on deciding how much product to use. Start off by using slower speeds and a minimal amount of product and slowly change your process, technique, speed, etc. until you have perfected it.
 
Greg, I forgot to ask, how fast are you working the product? How many rpm?



First I would try keeping your rpm's down and shorten your working time to see if it makes a difference and go from there.
 
Great info there !!

Do you know if there is an online shop wich sells the product and accept international orders? I just know AutoGeek. I just can't live without this compound after reading your reviews :drool: :bigups
 
Autogeek is the only place I've seen that is shipping it internationally right now...That said, I have a bottle of it on the way, just added it to an order I made tonight!!! I cannot wait till I get to test this stuff out!
 
Finally got that video to load, damn dial up! So almost 7 minutes and 105 was shown for 9 secounds, great, ya'll weren't kidding about the short work time. I got a quart and can't wait to try it. It would have been nice if the video had told what wool pad that was and what speed the makita was running.
 
Rick,



I found that in the cold temps turning down the rpm to 1100 or less reduced the quick gum effect. I was using a soft wool 8" pad, not a heavy cut.



I hope to use it again on another car and will try out different methods of attack. either way this stuff is pretty crazy at thet ability to remove defects quickly.



My question is how much clear is removed.......someone break out the PTG and give us a ball park idea. Calling RAG!!!!



Cheers,

GREG
 
Yeah chefwong - for real. I live out in the country, I hope the Time Warner guys get the cable out my way soon or at least a DSL from Embarq.



On the other hand, there's no neighbors, or home owners assoc. to tell me what I can or can't do on my own piece of dirt.
 
I did 2 passes today with M105 and a yellow edge wool. With my PTG it removed approx 0.1mil or less. This was on a black Infiniti M35.
 
Bryan, what PTG did you end up buying? I was looking at them today online and I am thinking about purchasing one. Any recommendations?
 
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