Questions about FK 1119

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qbmurderer13

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Hey guys, I currently used CG CWC as a pre-detail wash but im running low and heard some great things about their paint decontamination wash. Whats the preferred method of use with this prodct? Foam gun and then 2 bucket method? They recommend following with a milder wash soap afterwards so should I just foam with the 1119. Rinse that off and then 2 bucket method with something milder?
 
qbmurderer13 said:
Hey guys, I currently used CG CWC as a pre-detail wash but im running low and heard some great things about their paint decontamination wash. Whats the preferred method of use with this prodct? Foam gun and then 2 bucket method? They recommend following with a milder wash soap afterwards so should I just foam with the 1119. Rinse that off and then 2 bucket method with something milder?
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Noting that I'm awfully foamgun-centric ;) I wouldn't foam with it, I'd just use it conventionally. I wouldn't want that stuff in any of *my* foamguns and I suspect it'd do a whole lot of foamingsudsing (probably too much) but *not* be as effective with regard to actual cleaing.



Mix it per directions, which would be harder to do via foamgun anyhow.



You might try claying while its dwelling, but be prepared to go through a lot of clay.



And yeah, I both *precede and follow it* with a conventional shampoo; the prewash gets the big stuff and light soiling off and the post-wash makes sure I didn't leave any of the highly alkaline FK1119 behind. Be especially careful in this regard around areas that retain wash water/solution like behind trim/etc.



Some people think it smells terrible, but I didn't mind it. Still...be forewarned in case you think it's awful :D
 
Sounds like some pretty strong stuff. Ill just use the 2 bucket method with the 1119 and maybe foam with something milder or do another 2 bucket. Although if this stuff is as strong as you say won't it deteriate the clay bar? Thanks for the advice.
 
They say to dilute with water 1 to 4. So would that mean that lets say 3 gallons of water you would need almost a gallon to do a whole wash with the correct dilution ratio.
 
OOPS..forgot the prewash (gonna go edit my previous reply) :o



I wash conventionally first with the intenion of getting the "big stuff" off, *then* wash with just a gallon of mixed FK1119, *then* do a conventional wash then rinse. So that's a total of three washes but the first two go pretty fast.



The prewash also helps get the light dirt off so your bucket of FK1119 doesn't get all contaminated with stuff you coulda just washed off with a regular shampoo.



I just buy FK1119 in quarts as I don't use it that often, and one gallon of mix seems plenty. The big thing is to keep it wet/dwelling on the vehicle so it does it's thing chemically. If you do a two-bucket with it, be careful not to dilute the FK1119 mix.



Much as I rant about marring-free washes, the only time I use FK1119 is when I'm doing a full detail so if I instill a little marring I don't sweat it.



And yeah, it does dissolve the clay but not as quickly as some other things I can think of.
 
So you would pretty much need 1 quart just to do a car once? And that's with only a gallon or water? Doesn't seem right... That would cost a fortune. And if that's the case they should at least sell those things by the gallon.
 
qbmurderer13 said:
So you would pretty much need 1 quart just to do a car once? And that's with only a gallon or water? Doesn't seem right... That would cost a fortune. And if that's the case they should at least sell those things by the gallon.
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No, it dilutes down way more than that...I think it's 4 oz to a gallon of water.
 
Label says dilute 1 part 1119 to 4 parts water. Maybe they mean 4oz per gallon as you mentioned though...



Maybe they meant it to be sprayed on instead of used as a wash?
 
qbmurderer13 said:
Label says dilute 1 part 1119 to 4 parts water. Maybe they mean 4oz per gallon as you mentioned though...



Maybe they meant it to be sprayed on instead of used as a wash?
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If that's what it says, that must be it. I think I only mix up a quart at a time. As Accumulator says, the trick is to wash off the regular dirt with regular wash. You don't use very much, it kind of lays out on the car, you sponge it on, it sits there, you agitate and rinse.
 
Yeah, you really do mix one quart of FK1119 with four quarts of water to make 1.25 gallons of wash solution.



(Though I might've mixed it stronger if I was as careless in my thinking as I was when I posted the unedited version of this post. Sheesh, what's *with* me on this thread :o )



It's plenty if you prewash conventionally first. OK..if you're doing the world's crustiest Subruban I'd buy more than one quart of the stuff, but when I've used it on large sedans the gallon was plenty.
 
I think I have a 64oz jug that came with the decon kit...um...4 years ago. I was just looking at it and I think I usually mix up 16 oz with 64 oz of water...
 
Setec Astronomy- If that dilution does the job for you, why waste the stuff? The only times I've used it I wanted the most potent stuff I could get so I was even tempted to mix it up *stronger* than recommended (but I decided not to).
 
But Accumulator, as said above, the label directions are 1 part 1119 to 4 parts water...I'm mixing it at the label concentration, you are mixing it stronger :nixweiss:
 
Setec Astronomy- Dagnabbit...you keep confusing me with all that arithmetic :laugh:



I'd bet anything I misspoke on my previous post (off to edit :o ) and did it right when I actually mixed the stuff up. Or else that might explain why it worked so well on that lane-line paint!
 
Accumulator is not mixing it stronger. He's just making a larger amount of solution.



1 quart FK to 4 quarts water = 5 quarts of solution at 1:4 dilution ratio



16 ounces FK to 64 ounces water = 80 ounces of solution at 1:4 dilution ratio



Double your solution and you got the same amount as accumulator



5 quarts = 160 ounces

80 ounces * 2 = 160 ounces



Not stronger, just more of it
 
Dsoto87 said:
Accumulator is not mixing it stronger. He's just making a larger amount of solution...
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Heh hehm, you missed my ninja-edit ;)



I'd posted something different before Setedc Astronomy brought it to my attention.
 
Thanks for the suggestions guys, I'm gonna be doing 16oz of 1119 with 64oz of water and see wha that will do, if I run out I can always just add more.
 
Hey Accumulator, has the FK1119 replaced the AI/VG Step A for you? Or different uses?



PS That US Airways pilot passed his adrenal response training test, eh?
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Hey Accumulator, has the FK1119 replaced the AI/VG Step A for you? Or different uses?
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I just wanted to to try the FK119 so I bought a few quarts last time I ordered from them. I don't really have a preference between the two, but I sorta think of the FK1119 as being a "really special stuff" product more than the "A", which I see as a "super-harsh shampoo", if you get my (perhaps inscrutable) differentiation.





PS That US Airways pilot passed his adrenal response training test, eh?
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And how :xyxthumbs Keeping his [stuff] together and simply TCB like that is what it's all about. A pal of mine quipped "must've been an ex-Navy pilot" :chuckle: Sounds like the passengers and the rest of the flight crew performed to spec too.
 
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