Rob Tomlin
Lotus Exige S
While I'm at it, one last question: I asked about backing plates earlier, but I'm still not clear on the size I need for the rotary. Do I use a 6" backing plate if I want to use 6-6.5" pads?
Question for PC users that switched to Rotary?
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SuperBee364
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Rob Tomlin said:Thank you kind sir!
I'm embarrassed that I didn't figure out the single pads on AG. The reason I didn't is because the pads that you link to say "Edge DA Pads", but I assume those are ok to use on a rotary too?
This goes directly to my question above. It almost looks as though Edge recommends the Wave pads for the rotary and the flat ones for the DA. :nixweiss
Yeah, it's confusing that they list the smaller pads under the "DA Pads" section. They work great on a rotary. You can use either the wave or regular style six inchers with either machine. The wave pads do run a bit cooler on the rotary. The next batch of foam pads I buy will be the wave ones just for that reason. One potential drawback, though. I usually use a pad brush when I'm using foam. Spin the pad on the rotary, apply the brush while spinning, and you can greatly extend the amount of car you can polish with one pad. Wave style pads are a bit harder to brush in this manner. So it'll probably mean using more pads per car. Have to plan for that in advance.
Rob Tomlin said:
A few people have said that the new Meguiars W66 backing plate works great with the purple foamed wool 6.5" pad. I believe (but I'm not sure about this one.. someone please correct me if I'm wrong) that the W66 plate will work on pads from 6" to about 7.5". If you're going to be spending money on a backing plate, this is probably the one you'll want to get.
shine said:
There's alot of different opinions on this one. To me, the wave pads are better. I have limited experience with wave style foam (mainly the 3M 8" blue wave finishing pad), but I'm very impressed with how cool they run. It makes using foam almost as safe as using wool as far as heat is concerned.
That 3M blue wave pad is one of the best finishing pads I've ever used. It's just too big for me to use comfortably, and requires a *huge* backing plate. Unfortunately, the six inch 3M blue wave pads aren't available in the U.S. Hopefully the Edge six inch wave foam finishing pads will perform as well. I can't speak highly enough about that 3M pad, though, it really is a *great* pad.
Todd (TH0001) was the one that put me on to the 3M wave pad, the W66 plate, and Ultrafina... as well as other stuff, too. I have yet to be disappointed in any products he's recommended (or anything else regarding detailing, really). He *really* knows his stuff. If I could, I'd follow him around when he's shopping and just grab everything he does.
Denzil said:
Much appreciated, Denzil! Good find.
imported_Denzil
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No problem guys, glad I could help. I was tempted to order the foam pads from PakShak but then I'm debating whether I'd want the 6" Edge wave pads or the 6" normal Edge foam pads. The two things I'm worried about though is the compatibility with my 3k industrial adapter and how well the wave pads will wash out in my UPW (I'm assuming they'll do okay since you can do wool pads no problem).
Pats300zx
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The W66 BP is only for 6.5 pads and larger. When I purchased mine I wanted to use it with my Sonus 6 inch pads but the BP was all the way at the edge of the pad. So for the W66 its 6.5 or larger.
SuperBee364
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Great information, and great pics of that plate, Pat, thanks. So it'll work with the 6.5" LC purple foamed... that's good to know. Would you happen to know if it'll work with the 8" 3M blue wave foam pad? The backing plate that pefectly fits my 7.5" "Mushroom" style LC foam pads isn't big enough for the 3M pad.
imported_shine
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Does anyone know the difference between the W66 and W65 backing plates? 6" vs. 5.75"? AG only carries the W65.
SuperBee364
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Shine, check out the pic that Pat posted on the previous page. The w66 is really well padded.
imported_shine
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SuperBee364 said:
That does look nice. Here is the best pic I could quickly find for the 65:
It looks like the 66 has a bit more padding.
Right now I'm torn between trying out the Edge 6" foam (likely wave) or the 6.5" CCS foam to compliment the Edge 6" wool, if I go the rotary/edge 3k route...
Rob Tomlin
Lotus Exige S
shine said:
My understanding is that the W66 is 6" and the 65 is 4.75 inches.
I went ahead and placed an order today (from Pak Shak). I did not order the Edge system. I figured for now, I will just go with the purple foamed wool, and use the 6.5" inch foam CCS pads that I already have to get the feel for the rotary.
If I feel comfortable with the rotary and foam, I will consider the Edge system down the line. This saves me money in the short run since I only needed to buy one backing plate, and only the foamed wool pads (I got two) since I already have the 6.5 CCS pads.
Rob Tomlin
Lotus Exige S
I received my Makita today.
First dumb question: how do I get the stock backing plate off? :think:
Hey, it didn't come with directions (ebay)!
First dumb question: how do I get the stock backing plate off? :think:
Hey, it didn't come with directions (ebay)!
Eliot Ness
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Hey Rob, here are a couple of links for you (PDF instruction manual and a parts list):Rob Tomlin said:
http://www.makita.com/assets_product/9227C/owners_manuals/9227C.pdf
http://www.makita.com/assets_product/_parts_breakdowns/PB_9227C.pdf
Rob Tomlin
Lotus Exige S
Eliot Ness said:
Awesome, thanks Eliot!
Rob Tomlin
Lotus Exige S
Ok, if I understand correctly (no guarantee) I am supposed to lock the spindle by holding the button, and then I just need to "unscrew" the backing plate by turning it to get it off, right?
If so, I am having no luck at all in getting the stock BP off.
If so, I am having no luck at all in getting the stock BP off.
SuperBee364
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That's how you do it, Rob. "Lefty Loosey, Righty Tighty" 
Rob Tomlin
Lotus Exige S
SuperBee364 said:That's how you do it, Rob. "Lefty Loosey, Righty Tighty"
Thanks Supe, I at least needed confirmation that I was doing it right. I just put some WD 40 on it to see if that will help loosen it.
SuperBee364
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Rob, did you get the backing plate off yet? I've had a tough time getting my E2K adapter off every once in a while. Chanel Locks do the trick everytime.
SuperBee364
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Yeah, I only put it on hand tight, but it ends up being very difficult to remove. I think it's cause it gets hot then cools down. My new 3403 sends alot of heat down the spindle. It gets too hot to touch, actually.
SuperBee364
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Mindflux said:
I love it. So glad I got it instead of the 9227, especially when I'm doing vertical panels. It's so light.
Yeah, I've burned my thumb a few times on that adaptor when switching pads.