Poorboy's EX sealant w/ carnuba

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About two months ago I really put my pc to the test on my '88 mustang. Was repainted in about '97, so paint not too bad, has been garaged quite a bit, but not much this summer. Anyway used ssr2.5, vanilla moose hand glaze and topped w/ poorboy's ex sealant w/ carnuba. It sure looked nice, got most swirls out, however now doesn't seem to beed tight, any suggestions?? I do some detailing for some clients and I don't want this to happen on their cars.
 
Two months is pretty good for EX. The protective layer is meant to be sacraficial, so losing that ability to have a high surface tension is in the nature of the product. After two months it is time to go at it again with some VM and another layer or two of EX. You can top with natty's as well for some added protection and looks.
 
I have yet to use natty's, that is a wax, correct? I thought that the sealant was synthetic and supposed to last longer???
 
Well EX contains carnauba but it is also a sealant. If you add another layer of EX 24 hrs later it will improve durability and definitley improve looks in my experience. Topping with nattys also helps look and durability.
 
I recently used the new blue EX w/'nuba but used Optimum Spray Wax on top, awesome beading and looks - adding OSW only took another 15 mins to do.
 
I didnt realise they had done blue EX aswell now?! Must use up the normal EX before buying more products.
 
Ya, don't sweat it Richt - I have both and there isn't a ton of difference, plus I don't think you'll like the way the it seems to mute flakes while adding darkness and depth (I know you've been on a mission to find products that don't mute). Seems like it's more for non-metallic colors. Regular EX or EX-P is probably better for your car.
 
Beading is not the only durability indicator. How is the slickness? Appearance?



If your towels are still gliding over the paint after drying, odds are pretty good the paint is still protected.
 
Interesting... I guess I've missed something on the new Poorboy sealants.



So the "new" EX is blue in color? And not as good on dark metallics (ie. the metallic flake doesn't stand out as much?)?



And the "new" EX-P is less nice on metallics as well?



I have the "old" EX-P (thick, white, coconut smell), and was about to order the "new" EX.



Hmmm...



My Z is black. But my Sentra is a dark metallic red and my wife's Altima is dark metallic blue. My EX-P looks fanastic on my Sentra. But I'd always heard that EX is better on black, and thought the new "EX" was improved (durability?).



Should I even bother buying the new EX? (Get the old EX instead?) Hmmm....
 
z2pro for solid colors, darks, lights, metallics, it all looks fantastic, and stays that way for almost ever.
 
Inzane said:
Interesting... I guess I've missed something on the new Poorboy sealants.



So the "new" EX is blue in color? And not as good on dark metallics (ie. the metallic flake doesn't stand out as much?)?



Should I even bother buying the new EX? (Get the old EX instead?) Hmmm....
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There's no info on Poorboy's site about a "new" Blue version of EX or EX-P...I wasn't able to find anything on DetailCity either on it. Maybe RobDon got a test sample from Steve? In any event, the "regular" EX on the market is pretty good stuff, on both darks and lights, just like liquid Cheer :grinno:

I applied some on my friend's car (outside 24/7) a few weeks back and it's still beading nicely.
 
Inzane said:
Interesting... I guess I've missed something on the new Poorboy sealants.



So the "new" EX is blue in color? And not as good on dark metallics (ie. the metallic flake doesn't stand out as much?)?



And the "new" EX-P is less nice on metallics as well?



I have the "old" EX-P (thick, white, coconut smell), and was about to order the "new" EX.



Hmmm...



My Z is black. But my Sentra is a dark metallic red and my wife's Altima is dark metallic blue. My EX-P looks fanastic on my Sentra. But I'd always heard that EX is better on black, and thought the new "EX" was improved (durability?).



Should I even bother buying the new EX? (Get the old EX instead?) Hmmm....
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IIRC there is EX, EX-P, EX w/Carnauba and EX w/Carnauba BLUE - there is (as far as I know) no EX-blue. The blue is with carnuaba. It's confusing. EX and EX-P are the pure sealants, EX is (supposed to be) better on darker colors. EX w/Carnuba and carnauba blue are the sealants with carnauba, and apprently (like nattys) the blue is better on darker colors.



I have used EX, EX w/carnauba blue, ex w/carnauba regular, and nattys blue. So I can't really comment on EX vs EX-P, but between ex w/carnauba and the blue version, the blue version does look slightly deeper on my black car. Both mute flakes and will fill imperfections (ie: they have fillers). Neither EX or EX-P are supposed to mute flakes, iirc. I don't think either has fillers.



My regime currently is rmg/ex/ex w/carnauba/nattys with ocw booster for qd's and washes. Looks awesome, and you can leave regular ex out for a brighter looks (less dark, less deep), but I like it.



Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Picus said:
IIRC there is EX, EX-P, EX w/Carnauba and EX w/Carnauba BLUE



Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Ok, now you're really screwing me up. You keep referring to EX and EX w/ Carnauba as two separate entities... :help:



My understanding for at least the last couple years is EX IS "EX w/ Carnauba" and EX-P is pure sealant (ie. w/o carnuaba). You seem to be saying EX, EX w/ Carnauba, and EX-P are three separate products... but I thought there were only two.



There's "Polish w/ Carnauba"... are you confusing EX with that?
 
Picus said:
Ya, don't sweat it Richt - I have both and there isn't a ton of difference, plus I don't think you'll like the way the it seems to mute flakes while adding darkness and depth (I know you've been on a mission to find products that don't mute). Seems like it's more for non-metallic colors. Regular EX or EX-P is probably better for your car.
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LOL I wont. EX is my go to sealant still for darker non metallic colours! I do like it on my own black car too, just hides my flake!



I still have origional versions of EX-p and EX with Carnuba, what has changed in the new formulations off both?
 
Inzane said:
Ok, now you're really screwing me up. You keep referring to EX and EX w/ Carnauba as two separate entities... :help:



My understanding for at least the last couple years is EX IS "EX w/ Carnauba" and EX-P is pure sealant (ie. w/o carnuaba). You seem to be saying EX, EX w/ Carnauba, and EX-P are three separate products... but I thought there were only two.



There's "Polish w/ Carnauba"... are you confusing EX with that?
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Ya, it's confusing. They have new products coming out and with the blue versions its like ***...



So ok, EX and EX-P are sealants. EX has carnauba. They are seperate products. Then there is Poorboys polish w/carnauba and a blue version that are totally different. I know :confused:
 
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