Paul's new Wax has been introduced to the UK

The actual wax that one can purchase will cost $2000.



While I may not buy a jar personally, if I did I'd buy his over Zymol or Swisswax. Simply because he a detailer. i don't know anything about the Zymol/swisswax people. Who are they? At least Paul uses on details that he performs. Why would I make someone richer who I don't know when I can at least give it to someone who is "one of us"



I may be dumb but that is how I feel.



PS: what about $15000 interconnects????
 
Accumulator said:
On threads like this I sometimes find myself disagreeing with people that I *usually* see eye-to-eye with. Guess I'll just save bandwidth and refrain from more participation in this thread..other than replying to:







That was my point, I can't correct the paint, and I *won't* repaint, so some special LSP would be pointless :dance But upon rereading your post I can see how I might've misinterpreted :think: But some of those factory paintjobs are pretty low-quality too!



Heh heh, you and I can pick this up (yet) again on some other thread :chuckle:
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Accumulator, of all people I enjoy mixing it up with you the best!!!!! Nothing wrong with debating...........as long as you don't forget that its debating as an activity....one that can be enjoyed.......as opposed to taking it personal. Gulp can't believe I'm about to say this...........after all its just (think) "a preference for wax" haha....



Ok what was I gonna disagree with you about???? Ok I got it. I am all for maintaining original paint. I feel that paint properly taken cared of can last as long as the useful life of the car. IMO I would rather not repaint a car if its original paint is in good to acceptable shape. That's because most repaints that you could get aftermarket, although many of them can look better than the original, will be inferior to a optimal factory original either thru durability, and in most cases consistency (meaning you have uniform paint applied to all body parts, including jambs and cracks......yes consistency means a lot!!!).



So some factory paint jobs are rough huh..........are you picking on me just because I like General Motors products????? GM is DEFINITELY guilty of having "indifferent" paint quality. This is exactly WHY good products and methods are crutial. As long as you have good paint integrity, you can manage things like orange peel and swirls with any factory paint. Using good lsp and prep products will bring the most uninspired paint surfaces new life. That's why I personally place a high emphasis on the finish products, and not just the prep! Now........doesn't that wanna make you run out and buy yourself a subscription to EG.........(fill in the blank!) lol!!!
 
tdekany said:
The actual wax that one can purchase will cost $2000.



While I may not buy a jar personally, if I did I'd buy his over Zymol or Swisswax. Simply because he a detailer. i don't know anything about the Zymol/swisswax people. Who are they? At least Paul uses on details that he performs. Why would I make someone richer who I don't know when I can at least give it to someone who is "one of us"



I may be dumb but that is how I feel.



PS: what about $15000 interconnects????
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From what I understand his wax was developed jointly with Swisswax and will be sold through them.
 
I have several customers who use high end waxes as a tool. Some of these customers like Paul have high end clients with high dollar cars and to their customers using a high dollar wax is an advantage they have over other detailers. They charge a premium depending on what product they use. When Mr. Porsche enquires about a detail there is nothing that pleases him more than hearing "I will use a $10,000 wax" when the guy down the street uses Meguiar's. I can only assume Paul's crystal contained wax is meant for this purpose, he likely does not want to sell any as he mentioned but use the high price as an incentive for his clients. Just a thought.
 
I can see both sides of this argument...



I just dont understand why this is such a heated issue, kinda lame isn't it? I mean, we are detailing, correct? This 'job' isn't exactly a neccessity of life? Why then does what someone else charge and someone else pay for, matter so much to you guys?
 
tdekany said:
PS: what about $15000 interconnects????
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Lol, interconnects...



That really is the perfect comparison. No quantifiable way to tell the difference between a good $100 interconnect and a 15000, but you will have 'audiophiles' who say they can hear a difference and audiophiles who say they can't.





You know...with regards to this wax debate....one could say that spending a $1000 on a detail in stupid, but lots of you have charged and gotten this much.
 
jsatek said:
oh my, it gets worse.... Scott I hope you are Ha$$Y?
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Absolutely. I don't necessarily market myself (in the sense I am blatently solicting business) but I am not shy about letting people know what I do for a living.
 
Thats funny! Scottwax has a clear knowledge of many products and is a very practical detailer which I admire. His knowledge base is far greater than many beleive. If I were to choose someone to detail my car Scottwax would be the one.



Alfisti said:
When I Googled scottwax amongst the results was this. Did you know about it? :chuckle:



Urban Dictionary: Scottwax
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howareb said:
See, this is exactly what I did not mean for this thread to be.



The fact that capitalism and free choice really bother some people. Why exactly, I am not sure. The beauty of the system however is that if you feel that there is a market for something then you can set your goods at that price point and see what happens. It is our choice as consumers to decide if that price point fits us. If not, then you do not have to buy it, period. Are their areas in this world where people could better spend their money? Sure, but it is their money to do with what they want.



Where I live there are a lot of people with megabucks. Last year right around Christmas there were higher end clients that were complaining that the ultra-rich had a problem with the exclusivity of some fashions. They were asking, "what makes my Gucci (I could have the name wrong) bag different from hers". Well Gucci responded with a bag that was $20k usd that was a patchwork of some of their other popular bags. The bag to me looked ridiculous, but they sold out of the 40 that they made for the area, in less than a week. That shows that people are willing to spend big bucks for exclusive items.



Although Paul says that the higher end Crystal Rock wax is for him to keep, I am willing to bet that someone will offer to buy it from him.
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I agree with you howareb. It's our money, we should be able to do what we want with it. I bought a $14k Rolex Daytona. Amazingly, a $20 timex from Target keeps more accurate time. Am I wrong for buying the Rolex? I don't think so. It's like the people who criticized me for getting Vintage but then later beg for samples. What's up with that?
 
Vintage said:
I agree with you howareb. It's our money, we should be able to do what we want with it. I bought a $14k Rolex Daytona. Amazingly, a $20 timex from Target keeps more accurate time. Am I wrong for buying the Rolex? I don't think so. It's like the people who criticized me for getting Vintage but then later beg for samples. What's up with that?
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Too True lol!!!!!



But I'd love to have 14k for a rolex. Maybe next year! Lol......I won't hold my breath though..
 
paul has said on detail bliss that hes selling his private collection of royal and vintagewax. i p/med him to ask why and he responded because he found out they contained 6 to 8 percent silicone and that he cant use them anymore. i found this very strange. he use these waxes for years and all of a sudden he cant use them any more.
 
trhland said:
paul has said on detail bliss that hes selling his private collection of royal and vintagewax. i p/med him to ask why and he responded because he found out they contained 6 to 8 percent silicone and that he cant use them anymore. i found this very strange. he use these waxes for years and all of a sudden he cant use them any more.
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Makes you wonder if it has anything to do with who lines his pockets.:think2
 
SpoiledMan said:
Makes you wonder if it has anything to do with who lines his pockets.:think2
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its funny because i p/med him again and again to ask why silicone in wax is bad ?and he finnally got back to me after a ton of p/ms and said he cant comment on that! i dont know why?
 
Actually, I am leaving for London again on Monday. Anyone know where I can pick up some of Paul's new wax?



I plan to upgrade to Royale sometime this year but who knows, I may like Paul's new wax better.
 
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