Orange peel is good?

Okay, that's what I hoped it was :) My dad's friend gave me a bunch of C/D magazines a few days ago, and I'm enjoying them very much :)
 
I'm with Mike. I did a search and found the entire article, and after reading the section on the Impala (or I should say all of the domestic cars), it has to be sarcasm.
 
ahhh that's the worst car ever!!! My family rented one about 2 years ago and it was probably the worst car I have even been in. The seat hurt your back no matter what! The car even rolls back when you are stopped at a light hill. Sometime an automatic can roll back a few inches but not a few feet :wall:. I guess it might have been a bit better if it was manual because you can stop it from rolling back.
 
mikebai1990 said:
I saw this in an old Car and Driver magazine and I'm confused. Are they suggesting that orange peel is good?



On a side note, having the right amount of orange peel is good in the way that it gives your paint durabilty and protection. At the same time it takes away from the depth of your finish.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Speaking as a C/D reader for about 30 years, I think you are missing the classic irreverant sarcasm.

That is the part I love most about C/D. Answers to Letters to the Editor are pearls!
 
David Fermani said:
On a side note, having the right amount of orange peel is good in the way that it gives your paint durabilty and protection. At the same time it takes away from the depth of your finish.



i hv heard that before. i hv never heard the reasoning behind this. can you explain this?
 
pt91 said:
i hv heard that before. i hv never heard the reasoning behind this. can you explain this?



Peel is caused by too much paint used in the painting process right? So it doesn't level out to an even distribution, which is the cause of the distortion I believe. I guess because it is orange peeled, you have bit more paint in some areas? I dunno.
 
I never have liked C&D..



And the rolling back only has to do with the type of torque converter they used. My jeep does it and Ive never had a problem with it.. Some of our Jeeps do it and some dont..
 
From what I understand, the peel is caused by the chemical compounds in the paint. Some paints are more apt to peel than others. Generally all cars have orange peel to some extent after they are painted and you have to wet sand the peel out of the clear to get the flat finish. Many domestic auto manufacturers don't bother with this step because it takes time and a robot can't do it. It goes right in line with C/Ds statement about GM learning how to make a dollar.



Love love love the comment about visible mold lines on the plastic pieces. For the love of god, why make the plastic mold lines visible? Is it really that hard to make them on the back side of parts? The domestic automakers are paying dearly for their laziness and I for one don't feel sorry for them. I honestly do hope they can turn it around, but they have TRULY earned their seat in the gutter for what they've done the last 20-something years.
 
The amount of orange peel in today's paint is due to the VOC (volatile organic compounds) restrictions. In the old days more solvent was used in the paint, allowing it to flow out more smoothly before curing. Today's high solids/low VOC paints just don't do that.



As far as achieving mold separation on the "back" of a part...a mold has two halves...I dunno how you can get both parting lines on one side of the part.
 
From what I know about orange peel, manufacturers want orange peel in their finishes where repaints (body shops) want to eliminate it. Orange peel on a repaint is usually from poor technique with a paint gun. Orange peel in the assembly line is meant to occur. Orange peel is sort of like an armored finish that resists scratches and wear.
 
Oh come on David, you're old enough to know that orange peel was the mark of a bad painter. The auto plants are overseen on their VOC emissions a lot more than a body shop.
 
BlueLibby04 said:
I never have liked C&D..



And the rolling back only has to do with the type of torque converter they used. My jeep does it and Ive never had a problem with it.. Some of our Jeeps do it and some dont..



I think that in addition to the TQ, it's really about how much torque the engine can produce at idle versus the weight of the vehicle.



Most consumer vehicles these days have torquey enough engines to where they will at least sit still on an uphill.
 
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