Optimum Polish with PC experiences?

[toml]

Burgandy pad is more aggressive, IMO.

So, to get the same correction (as you get with the burgundy pad and the polish) but with the Propel yellow pad, would I need to step up to the Optimum compound? I'm trying to figure out which product with the yellow pad would do the same correction as DACP and SSR 2.5 with the same pad.

 

[mgm2003]

I just gave OCP a try this weekend on a white '03 Mazda6 with light to moderate swirls. Used an LC white pad on my PC @ 5.5. It worked for a very long time with little to no dusting. However, after doing half the hood in the shade, the sun poked thru the clouds and revealed that I hardly made a dent in the swilrs, maybe 15-20% removed. I was a bit disappointed to say the least. I gave it another pass and still little impact on the swirls. Unfortunately, I didn't have my LC yellow pads with me so I couldn't test it out. I ended up using SSR2.5 with fresh LC white pads and got most of the swirls out.



I'm hoping I'll get better results using LC yellow pads next time. Maybe OCP is better suited for rotary use? Maybe me assuming OCP+LC white = SSR2.5+LC white was just off. I probably needed to use LC yellow+OCP to get similar results.

Try using the Optimum compound via the PC, and you'll see a HUGE difference in performance. It's probably the best swirl remover that I've ever used via PC.



The polish is top shelf when you use a rotary or cyclo. I have had some luck with it on the PC, using an orange pad, but I have other products that do much better. -Just my 2 cents.

 

[Scottwax]

So, to get the same correction (as you get with the burgundy pad and the polish) but with the Propel yellow pad, would I need to step up to the Optimum compound?

Sounds about right.



I hear there is a more aggressive version of the compound being tested.

 

[toml]

Sounds about right.



I hear there is a more aggressive version of the compound being tested.

Thanks for the feedback. That's quite helpful and makes sense as the cutting power of the polish is so pad dependent.



How would you compare the abrasiveness of the polish to a familiar product like #80? Say with either a light cut or medium cut pad?

 

[Scottwax]

Optimum is more aggressive than #80 but finishes down at least as nicely. I'd say with a polishing pad, OP fits right between #80 and DACP.

 

[toml]

Optimum is more aggressive than #80 but finishes down at least as nicely. I'd say with a polishing pad, OP fits right between #80 and DACP.

Very helpful, thanks Scott!! I know what #80 can do so at least I have a point of comparison :grinno:

 

[Richt]

Cheers Scott, thats helped me out too. With a polishing pad is it more or less aggressive than Poorboys SSR 2 and SSR 2.5?

 

[FrizzleFry]

until i have more time to play around w/ OCP... I think i'll stick to menzerna. I did try it out on a black accord again but wasn't making much of a dent. also used it on a black expedition but the shine/gloss wasn't there that I usually would with IP or FP2. the IP worked alot faster at removing the swirls... but I guess OCP has the advantage of long work times... ugh... wish there was more time to play around.

 

[autoweenie]

Finally I tried the OCP today (PC with LC yellow pad). I have had a similar experience. It did not seem to knock down the swirls that quickly (I did follow Anthony's advise of using the polish sparingly). Yes, it seemed to be a bit stronger than #80. After 1/2 hour, the sun came out. So, I switched back to SSR2.5/SSR1 and finished the rest of the car. The one thing I love about this polish is that it does not dust at all and it left a great shiny surface. I will test OCP again on my other car.

By the way, the Optimum Spray Wax is incredible. Incredibly easy to use with great results.

One thing that baffles me is that why aren't products like Optimum Spray Wax sold at regular stores

like Pepboy, Walmart. I would think this kind of product is perfect for Joe Average who wants

mimimum effort with maximum result.

 

[Anthony O.]

Finally I tried the OCP today (PC with LC yellow pad). I have had a similar experience. It did not seem to knock down the swirls that quickly (I did follow Anthony's advise of using the polish sparingly). Yes, it seemed to be a bit stronger than #80. After 1/2 hour, the sun came out. So, I switched back to SSR2.5/SSR1 and finished the rest of the car. The one thing I love about this polish is that it does not dust at all and it left a great shiny surface. I will test OCP again on my other car.

By the way, the Optimum Spray Wax is incredible. Incredibly easy to use with great results.

One thing that baffles me is that why aren't products like Optimum Spray Wax sold at regular stores

like Pepboy, Walmart. I would think this kind of product is perfect for Joe Average who wants

mimimum effort with maximum result.

Great to see you had a nice experience with the OCP and it may be more agressive than #80 but not as aggressive as IP unless it is used via rotary. That's when the OCP really shines. You'll see what I mean when I get done with a black Ferrari I am doing right now.



As for the OCW, well you won't see anything like it in the stores because it is patented and no one else can put out a product like it with carnauba and UV absorbers.



Anthony

 

[toml]

... unless it is used via rotary. That's when the OCP really shines ...

I'd like to hear that OPC really shines when used via PC too. Seems like Scott's been getting good results with it but other posters are frustrated by its low abrasiveness relative to what they're used to. It could be just a matter of figuring out the right pad combination for the PC .. or realizing that OCP, like anything else, can only go so far.



What I'm reading so far is that OCP is more abrasive than #80 but less than SSR 2.5 and DACP with a typical light or medium cut pad via PC.

 

[qadsan]

Anthony, would you suggest OCC (Optimum Compound) for folks who aren't getting their desired results from OCP with their D/A since OCC is a bit more aggressive? I still haven’t used my Optimum products, but from what I’ve been reading, I’m led to believe that OCP is tuned more for rotaries and that OCC might be better choice for the D/A if OCP isn’t getting the job done quick enough. Is this correct?

 

[Anthony O.]

Anthony, would you suggest OCC (Optimum Compound) for folks who aren't getting their desired results from OCP with their D/A since OCC is a bit more aggressive? I still haven’t used my Optimum products, but from what I’ve been reading, I’m led to believe that OCP is tuned more for rotaries and that OCC might be better choice for the D/A if OCP isn’t getting the job done quick enough. Is this correct?

Well I would always start off first with the OCP and a polishing pad as this will give you a feeling for what is needed. The Ferrari I am detailing now was done mostly with the OCP and a Opt. Green medium polishing pad and only a few areas needed the OCC and the same green pad, all work done with a rotary. So when I felt that the green pad and the OCP wasn't cutting it I then went up to the OCC but did not change pads.



Orange pads on my Cyclo with OCC left hazing yet very little hazing when used with green or white Cyclo pads and OCC and I have never experienced any hazing with OCP when used with either my Cyclo or rotary. So again my advice would be to use the OCP first with various pads and when you feel you have reached OCP's limits then switch to the OCC and a mild pad first.



Hope that helps,

Anthony

 

[klnyc]

Any one try OCP with wool pad?

 

[Anthony O.]

Any one try OCP with wool pad?

Sure.



Kevin, Ron and myself have used OCP in its testing phase to remove 1500 grit sanding marks and then went down the pad grades (wool-medium polishing-mild polishing-ultra fine polishing) to finish out to a swirl free, ready to wax finish.



Anthony