:bigups Well, after much reading I finally tried out the bottle of ONR i've had for 2 months. I'm impressed with the product. It took me about an hour to do the whole car, but i took my time. I think once i get my technique down, hopefully i'll be able to break about 20 minutes off that time (hopefully). I used 2 buckets, wheels first, pre-treated and then one panel @ a time, top to bottom with chenelle mits and PB's WW's. Topped it with OSW. This stuff its pretty amazing. Thanks Juztang for answering my questions and the fine OPT products. Now i guess i'll be ordering it a gallon @ a time.