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solekeeper

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I have been speaking to MULTIPLE detailers on here, and every time I'm about to pull the trigger and purchase Megs105.. I hear about another pad that could be better..



So someone please recommend me a pad to use the Megs105 with.

It is for cutting 1500 sand scratches.



These pads have been recommended to me



-Tuf Buf wool pad (Black)

-Purple wool pad GP 7.5" Foam Wool Polishing Pad

-Or the orange foam



I need something that won't leave alot of swirling or microscratches!

Looking to buy these tonight!!!! :waxing:



Thanks!!
 
I have had very good results with the PFW with M105, however, it depends on the finish too. Some of the corrections I have done, I used the PFW and it finished LSP ready; and others, I had to finish down a little further with 85RD.
 
purple foamed wool... Anyways.. You're wanting to use a product with a cut rate of 12 (when even the harshest of compounds out there are only rated to a 10) thinking about using a heavy cut wool pad and not wanting to leave swirls? Few have that kind of skills. Use 105 like it's supposed to be used and then go over it with something like 205 or polish of choice to take out the swirls that 105 instills. Which really isn't horrible to begin with but not really LSP ready by any means either.
 
Got_Leather said:
If all your looking for it to do is remove 1500 grit sand scratches I would use the Black Tuf Buf Pad hands down.
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Yeah, that's the way I was thinking too, not that I'd try to take out 1500 scratches with M105 anyhow. Definitely forget the orange foam for this.
 
Accumulator, several detailers on here have recommended the M105 for the sandscratches.. Can you explain your reasoning?
 
solekeeper said:
Accumulator, several detailers on here have recommended the M105 for the sandscratches.. Can you explain your reasoning?
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1500 scratches are pretty severe (I'd always follow up with a milder paper), and I question who effective M105 will be on them. To me, that sounds more like a job for something like 3m Extra Cut or some other rocks-in-a-bottle compound.
 
I'm currently using the 3m Extra cut at the shop, but I wanted something the equivalent to it.



Can you recommend something?
 
Accumulator said:
1500 scratches are pretty severe (I'd always follow up with a milder paper), and I question who effective M105 will be on them. To me, that sounds more like a job for something like 3m Extra Cut or some other rocks-in-a-bottle compound.
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Accumulator you are dead on. I wasn't going to mention anything else since the OP mentioned 105 but there are quite a few of compounds that remove sanding marks easier. For instance, Ardex 1500 :)
 
Got_Leather said:
Accumulator you are dead on. I wasn't going to mention anything else since the OP mentioned 105 but there are quite a few of compounds that remove sanding marks easier. For instance, Ardex 1500 :)
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While your right about ardex 1500 removing sand marks quicker. Its design is to remove sand marks on freshly painted panels. There 1000 will remove 1500 sand marks like a hot knife threw butter. There both very amazing compounds. If ardex 1500 would be apart of the marketing hype and frenzy of these distributers it would take over the industry hands down. Its not a box of rocks compound. Funny thing is Ill bet if you compared the ingredients in Menzerna products and they ingrediants in Ardex there may be a lot of common chemicals.:secret Now you want to talk a box of rocks compound you need to go back to the old 3m Micro finish it I think. It came in a paint can. I can remember having to wrap a paper towel around a paint stick dipping it in the can and tossing it on the car it was that thick. Thats the problem with all these new compounds today. LIke Meg. 105 people talk how heavy this stuff is. Rating it a 12 on a scale of 10 lmfao more like a 6. If you know the old school stuff and been at this you know there is not one compound on the market that cuts like the old school ones. I can remember removing orange peel in clearcoat with a compound and wool pad using a tumbling technique. People wonder today why these orange pads and m105 don't cut enough or it takes them 30 passes to remove swirls or sand marks. Then they burn it because of all the heat and friction. Why not just go right to a wool pad? Work a day with me and ILl change everything you ever thought about TRUELY leveling paint is!!!!! Anyway have a great night boys!
 
On some extremely hard surfaces, it is possible to get a near LSP-ready finish with M105 and the solo Burgandy heavy cutting wool pad. I have achieved exactly that on my BMW 335i coupe Sapphire Metallic paint. The clear coat was so hard that M105 did not leave any swirls or nicks that dread detailers working on softer paint. Of course, paint with that kind of hardness is rare even from BMW.



Personally, I like the Purple Foamed Wool. I cannot explain why, but on some paints I think I get a much smoother fiinish with it than from the LC orange cutting pad when using M105. Also, the PFW doesn't require a lot of pressure to get the pad going. With the orange pad, a lot of pressure and products are needed. The PFW is a very good pad. Some people like it, some hate it. You have to try it to decide. I am not a professional detailer and I wash my car diligently, so a PFW is aggressive enough for me in most cases. I have the W5000 and solo pads at my disposal in case I need some serious corrections.



PO85u has slightly more cut than PO85RD. PO85RD, with finer abrasives, is able to finish much smoother than PO85u. Honestly, to even the enthusiasts, it is very hard to tell the difference between PO85u and PO85RD. We are comparing very similar ultra-fine finishing polishes here.
 
the_invisible said:
On some extremely hard surfaces, it is possible to get a near LSP-ready finish with M105 and the solo Burgandy heavy cutting wool pad. I have achieved exactly that on my BMW 335i coupe Sapphire Metallic paint. The clear coat was so hard that M105 did not leave any swirls or nicks that dread detailers working on softer paint. Of course, paint with that kind of hardness is rare even from BMW.



Personally, I like the Purple Foamed Wool. I cannot explain why, but on some paints I think I get a much smoother fiinish with it than from the LC orange cutting pad when using M105. It is a very good pad. Some people like it, some hate it. I am not a professional detailer and I wash my car diligently, so a PFW is aggressive enough for me. I have the W5000 and solo pads at my disposal in case I need some serious corrections.
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It's not that 105 doesn't finish out great for what it does, but it does not have the gloss of a true finishing polish suck as 85rd. Even if the paint I am working on is perfect, 85rd takes it to another level in gloss.
 
Don't get me wrong. I would never stop after M105 without some finer polish. Being nearly LSP-ready is still not LSP ready, in my opinion. ;)
 
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