stiffdogg06
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Grimm said:
Nikon D40 SLR Digital Camera Body, NKD40 - FotoConnection.com <- Body only
Nikon D40 SLR Digital Camera Body, NKD40 - FotoConnection.com has it for like $430 for the body and a 18-55mm lens.
Nikon vs. Canon
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Nikon D40 SLR Digital Camera Body, NKD40 - FotoConnection.com <- Body only
Nikon D40 SLR Digital Camera Body, NKD40 - FotoConnection.com has it for like $430 for the body and a 18-55mm lens.
Stills & car shows would enjoy a nice wide angle in addition to the kit lens, 10-22 or 11-18mm. Air shows, well, "sky's the limit" :chuckle: . I think the XTi would be the best choice as it fits exactly what you are looking for. Body within your budget, kit lens, and a great starting point. You can add on your lenses from there, after playing around with the kit lens.
The biggest difference I've used and appreciated between my old Digital Rebel and the 30D is the fps (frames per sec). Continuous shooting mode is so much faster on the 30D, and they came in handy these last few months because we had both the Thunderbirds and the Blue Angels come into town.
The biggest difference I've used and appreciated between my old Digital Rebel and the 30D is the fps (frames per sec). Continuous shooting mode is so much faster on the 30D, and they came in handy these last few months because we had both the Thunderbirds and the Blue Angels come into town.
Todd@RUPES
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I have Cannon Powershot A630 for a point and click and a Nikon D40X for DSL, and couldn't be happier with either choice.
holland_patrick
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sQuashed said:
well I haven't spend thousands.. Yet.......
just a few hunderd.... oh maybe 2k at the most.. but hell the 100-400 is is SOOOO worth it.
holland_patrick
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Grimm said:
OH that is where your SOOOOOO wrong... Canon has had FUll frame (no crop) sensors out for years now. Nikon just release thier first....also Nikon just rereleased all there tele primes with VR which Canon also had IS on ther tele primes for years now....
Nikon is just catching up...
sQuashed
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LOL... I could only imagine !!!
This question gets asked every couple of weeks on another forum I go to.
It's the same thing as auto detailing, it's not so much the products, but the process; a great photographer takes great photos, not the camera.
Honestly for anyone considering getting a DSLR you can't go wrong with either Canon or Nikon, hence I didn't vote in the poll, because 'best' is subjective. Both companies offer a huge selection of lenses and accessories. When I got my first DSLR a couple Canon junkies persuaded me to go with Canon, but either would have been fine. Only thing I would comment on is Canon does have an edge over Nikon regarding long telephoto lenses, which is why at big sporting events you see all white L glass, but theres a good chance if your an amateur you won't be able to afford any of those lenses as they are in the +2k range. Canon also has really good high ISO due to them using a CMOS chip vs the CCD chip Nikon uses. I did like the Nikon ergonomics better, but that's subjective, and I've grown accustomized to my little Rebel.
I can't say much about P+S as I have limited experience with them. If your considering getting a DSLR I'd go to a couple stores and actually hold them and go through the controls and menus to see what you like/dislike. Also look at the types of accessories and lenses they use to make sure they offer what you want and if it's financially feasible. Your buying into a 'system' more so then just a camera.
It's the same thing as auto detailing, it's not so much the products, but the process; a great photographer takes great photos, not the camera.
Honestly for anyone considering getting a DSLR you can't go wrong with either Canon or Nikon, hence I didn't vote in the poll, because 'best' is subjective. Both companies offer a huge selection of lenses and accessories. When I got my first DSLR a couple Canon junkies persuaded me to go with Canon, but either would have been fine. Only thing I would comment on is Canon does have an edge over Nikon regarding long telephoto lenses, which is why at big sporting events you see all white L glass, but theres a good chance if your an amateur you won't be able to afford any of those lenses as they are in the +2k range. Canon also has really good high ISO due to them using a CMOS chip vs the CCD chip Nikon uses. I did like the Nikon ergonomics better, but that's subjective, and I've grown accustomized to my little Rebel.
I can't say much about P+S as I have limited experience with them. If your considering getting a DSLR I'd go to a couple stores and actually hold them and go through the controls and menus to see what you like/dislike. Also look at the types of accessories and lenses they use to make sure they offer what you want and if it's financially feasible. Your buying into a 'system' more so then just a camera.
stiffdogg06
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JohnnyDaJackal said:
What are some good stores that have a nice stock of DSLR's?
Wal-mart has a few but you can't do much without them besides pick them up...
imported_JaCkaL829
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\r\n\r\nOf the top of my head...Best Buy, Circuit City, Staples, Costco, Electronics-Expo, etc.. Those are the chain stores that will only have the amateur stuff. If you look in the yellow pages for actual camera stores I\'m sure they have more stuff for you to see but you gotta be careful because some of them aren\'t too excited about \'window shopping\', especially with the higher end stuff.'stiffdogg06 said:
BlueZero
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stiffdogg06 said:
Best buy has a pretty decent stock. None have cards in them so you can't save images but you can at least play with the features and snap a few shots.
Your best bet is to go to a real camera store. We have a few local here. When ever I upgrade or think of upgrading I'll go down to the store with a memory card and some times my own lens and shoot some images. Then go back home and upload them on my computer. Lets me get a hands on feel and see real images.
I order most of my stuff online from bhphoto or adorama.
One thing a lot of people seem to not realize is that it's more than just buying a camera like a point and shoot. There are all the extras to buy. I have about $8k in photography stuff and haven't used it for a year or more. This winter I'm going to take the time to get back into it.
And yes, it's the photographer and not the equipment, so don't try to buy your way in to results.
stiffdogg06 said:
Off the top of my head......Best Buy, Circuit City, Electronics-Expo, Staples and Costco all have amateur DSLRs from either Canon or Nikon. You can also try the yellow pages to find actual camera stores in your area. They would have more of a selection. I went to one and the guy was trying to upsell me on everything, not to mention their prices we're significantly raised. That's a good bet as long as you tell them straight up your just looking, I have had places tell me they frown upon 'window shopping' especially with the higher end stuff.
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sQuashed said:
Impressive work! Helps motivate me to get back into it.
sQuashed
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Thank you !!
I am a pretty big photo junkie, so here is my take....
1. Canon by and far have better p&s cameras, I dont think there is much debate on this on any photography forums.
2. Nikon slr bodies are better built and have better ergonomics. Their flash system is also better than Canon. The one negative, and the biggest negative so far regarding Nikon SlR cameras is the NOISE issue at higher ISO. The issue regarding high noise at high ISO may have been resolve however with the introduction of the D3 (Full Frame) and the D300 (crop camera).
3. Canon bodies are not as well built as Nikon, especially the lower end models. However, the big advantage Canon has had over Nikon over the last 7 years is that their cameras produce much lower noise at high ISO. It is this reason many PROs have switched over to Canon in the last decade.
4. Lens - This is the biggest reason I am shooting with Canon SLRs even though I like Nikon more. Whenever you decide to step up to a slr camera, you have to realize that you are essentially buying/investing into a system (bodies, flash, lens, accessories), and the most important part of the system TO ME are the lenses. Both companies have 1st rate lenses, so dont get me wrong, but at the moment Nikon has no pro grade F4 lenses, which is a huge deciding factor to ME. F2.8 are fast glass and is great, but they generally to heavy for me for occasional use. Canon at moment also has a superior lineup of "prime" lenses (no zoom).
1. Canon by and far have better p&s cameras, I dont think there is much debate on this on any photography forums.
2. Nikon slr bodies are better built and have better ergonomics. Their flash system is also better than Canon. The one negative, and the biggest negative so far regarding Nikon SlR cameras is the NOISE issue at higher ISO. The issue regarding high noise at high ISO may have been resolve however with the introduction of the D3 (Full Frame) and the D300 (crop camera).
3. Canon bodies are not as well built as Nikon, especially the lower end models. However, the big advantage Canon has had over Nikon over the last 7 years is that their cameras produce much lower noise at high ISO. It is this reason many PROs have switched over to Canon in the last decade.
4. Lens - This is the biggest reason I am shooting with Canon SLRs even though I like Nikon more. Whenever you decide to step up to a slr camera, you have to realize that you are essentially buying/investing into a system (bodies, flash, lens, accessories), and the most important part of the system TO ME are the lenses. Both companies have 1st rate lenses, so dont get me wrong, but at the moment Nikon has no pro grade F4 lenses, which is a huge deciding factor to ME. F2.8 are fast glass and is great, but they generally to heavy for me for occasional use. Canon at moment also has a superior lineup of "prime" lenses (no zoom).
sQuashed said:I also have a 50mm Canon Lens that is the absolute coolest $50.00 lens you will ever see
This lens is legendary!
In the 'analog' world..many say that Nikon makes the best lenses, Minolta makes the best bodies, and Canons are a good all around performer.
I think Canon has spent the most R&D in the digital world...and I've always been very happy with the quality of the pics of Canon's P&Ss I had a 3 MP that took better pics than a 5MP Kodak
1) Agreed
2) Both have their +'s and -'s. They have great ergonomics. Your arm will tired way more quickly than your hands (because if the weight).
Canons TTL-II is very good.
3) Not well built? Go to any sporting event and tell me what color the lenses are in the row of photographers
(Canon L series lenses are white, so when you see a bunch of photographers and you see white lenses, you know they are using Canons.
They are both good. The only difference that matters is whether you like the name Canon or Nikon. Also, whether you like a 'Ferrari' shutter sound (quick, crisp) of a Nikon SLR or the 'V8' sound of a Canon (slightly louder) (but that could just be my hearing).
sQuashed
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Nice Car Zeus !!!!!
The Camera equipment looks good too:wow:
You looking to get rid of a 70-200 f4 non IS?
The Camera equipment looks good too:wow:
You looking to get rid of a 70-200 f4 non IS?
ZeusCGP said:3) Not well built? Go to any sporting event and tell me what color the lenses are in the row of photographers
(Canon L series lenses are white, so when you see a bunch of photographers and you see white lenses, you know they are using Canons.
I wasnt referring to the Canon L Lenses. I have quite a few L lenses myself, but I was referring to the EF-S line. I had a few EF-S lenses, and if you compare the Canon consumer grade lenses, they are FAR FAR from the quality of the Nikon consumer grade lenses. This goes for Canon's consumer SLRs also. Go out and compare the materials used on Nikon D40x vs the Rebel XTI and tell me which one feels nicer in the hand.