New Brake Pads made the difference...

Harleyguy said:
I think all you guys should just bite the bullet and get a full set of carbon fiber pads and rotors.Great stopping no dust and with stand high temps.Just my 2 cents i have my brakes done at midas shops.
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Midas? Ye'll right, you got a full shop there to play with.........
 
RustyBumper said:
Man, I wish I could but the wife would skin me!! Maybe one day when I get my new dream car, the Cadillac CTS-V, I will. For now I think I'll just stick to ceramics. While I have the wheels off I think that I'll paint the rusted areas as well as the brake calipers. Does anyone know of a good paint that I could use?
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I agree with luster and most of the local auto part stores carry the paint.Just one thing make sure the calipers are spotless clean .If you can take the brake pads out of the calipers and also clean the mounting bracket if you want to paint that also.The paint holds up very well and just once in a while needs a touch up.The real way to go is powder coat them but you have to stripe them down and rebuild the calipers after that process.
 
Asphalt Rocket said:
Why wouldn't you, there is nothing wrong with drilled rotors on the street.
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I don't think there is anything wrong with having them on the street, there are just a whole host of disproved myths about "performance" pads and rotors. You pay lots of money and while they will outperform stock pads and rotors on the track (usually due to heating and hard breaking) they DO NOT outperform stock brakes on normal street driving.

http://www.scirocco.org/faq/brakes/pulpfriction/pfpage1.html

http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_brakesystems_upgradeselections.shtml

http://www.brembo.com/ENG/HighPerformance-Brakes/FAQs/ (even Brembo admits it on their website).

Here is the Brembo website quote: "Therefore, an increase in braking power will do nothing to stop the vehicle in a shorter distance."

So, for me I've always thought... do it if you like the look on your car, or if you take the car to the track, but don't do it if you suddenly think your new pads and rotors are going to make you have a shorter stopping distance under normal driving conditions.

Seems like a lot of money to pay for very little benefit.
 
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I run slotted/drilled 2-piece rotors - front and rear - on my Evo. I would have rather had undrilled/unslotted, if you will, but these particular parts save 20lbs of rotational mass and that's no small chunk of change. On the track, we run the stock blanks, as the drilled rotors can crack under these conditions. While I'm as amused by the armchair hypotheses as the next (car) guy, I can only say that nothing beats actual experience. I've had brake pads literally smoke on the street. The current Performance Friction pads are holding up well. Some would argue that they're overkill for "normal driving." Yet, given my individual needs, they're the bare minimum. I guess I'm trying to say that "normal driving" isn't a transitive property. ;)
 
User Name said:
I don't think there is anything wrong with having them on the street, there are just a whole host of disproved myths about "performance" pads and rotors. You pay lots of money and while they will outperform stock pads and rotors on the track (usually due to heating and hard breaking) they DO NOT outperform stock brakes on normal street driving.

http://www.scirocco.org/faq/brakes/pulpfriction/pfpage1.html

http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_brakesystems_upgradeselections.shtml

http://www.brembo.com/ENG/HighPerformance-Brakes/FAQs/ (even Brembo admits it on their website).

Here is the Brembo website quote: "Therefore, an increase in braking power will do nothing to stop the vehicle in a shorter distance."

So, for me I've always thought... do it if you like the look on your car, or if you take the car to the track, but don't do it if you suddenly think your new pads and rotors are going to make you have a shorter stopping distance under normal driving conditions.

Seems like a lot of money to pay for very little benefit.
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I was just wondering what you view was on it, so it comes down to the cost aspect of it for you.
 
For those who own a GM vehicle and are in need of new shoes, Goodwrench is having a promotion right now for new ceramic pads installed for $75, after a mail-in rebate. Also, there are some restrictions on this offer. I made an appoinment to have them installed on my truck this coming Tuesday. $75 installed is too good of a deal to pass up.
 
RustyBumper said:
For those who own a GM vehicle and are in need of new shoes, Goodwrench is having a promotion right now for new ceramic pads installed for $75, after a mail-in rebate. Also, there are some restrictions on this offer. I made an appoinment to have them installed on my truck this coming Tuesday. $75 installed is too good of a deal to pass up.
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You're right... that's too good to pass up!!!:D
 
User Name said:
Um, if that's what you got out of my response...
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Pretty much. Though they may not make you stop any better on the street there is no reason you can not use them on the your daily driver. We have been installing these types of rotors on cars for years. I figured you would have your own opinion instead of using information I already know about from a website or a manufactor. I was looking for you to explain why you shouldn't, better in your own words.
 
What is important though is that car's rotors are designed for ceramic pads; otherwise the rotors will typically wear faster
 
Wife's matrix had a brake job a few months ago (new pads OEM, Turn Rotor's, Rebuilt Calipers, breed system ) and it still doesn't have that much of brake dust on the rims and stops quick.
 
Asphalt Rocket said:
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retty much. Though they may not make you stop any better on the street
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Well, I actually said it doesn't shorten stopping distance.

there is no reason you can not use them on the your daily driver.
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I never said you couldn't. In fact, if someone likes the look or takes their DD to the track, by all means they should buy them.

We have been installing these types of rotors on cars for years.
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Thanks for that info.

I figured you would have your own opinion instead of using information I already know about from a website or a manufactor.
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I gave you my own opinion, which like any reasonable person, is based on certain facts that I've ascertained in one way or another. If my doctor tells me I need a to start taking a "statin", what I would do is find the most relevant material on statins, read it and form my opinion. If someone than asked me "why" I had such an opinion, I'd state it, link to the supporting evidence for my opinion and call it a day. Not really rocket science.

I was looking for you to explain why you shouldn't, better in your own words.
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No you weren't.
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OK, it looks like something is cooking here guys, so all I have to ask is take it to PM's or I'll might have to tell the OP that this thread has to close.:chillpill:
 
Nothing cooking Angelo, I thought User Name had some type of vital information when he said in his first post to only use them if you are going to take your car to the track. I was going to pass this information on to my customers that have had these rotors on for years with trouble free daily driving and to those that were thinking of installing these type of rotors.
 
[Brembo aims to mass produce carbon-ceramic brakes with new joint venture
New technologies always cost the early adopters big bucks. But higher demand leads to increased supply, and costs eventually go down to the level accessibly by the common man. So while carbon-ceramic brakes might be a big ticket item right now ? often dipping into five figures as optional equipment on European exotica ? Brembo has formed a new joint venture with carbon-fiber supplier SGL Group with the specific goal of mass-producing the brake technology for widespread application.

Carbon-ceramic brakes offer several major benefits over cast-iron discs -- specifically light weight and the ability to dissipate heat quickly, preventing fade -- with few drawbacks. The only downside is that the extant manufacturing process is labor-intensive, driving the cost up, which is why they're currently only available on high-end exotic supercars. Brembo SGL Carbon Ceramic Brakes, however, which just began operations at its Milan headquarters on the first of this month, aims to streamline the production of the rotors so that they can be implemented across the industry. (That's a good thing.) Scope out the press release below the fold for more] Noah Joseph
 
I took advantage of the Goodwrench special and got the ceramics installed. So far, so good. Stops when I need it to, reduced dusting and no noise. I'll wait a couple of more weeks and give an update.

As a side note, I asked the parts guy how much the shocks cost for both the front and back of my Sierra. Fronts were $153/each and rears were $197/each. Looks like I'll be making several trips to the plasma bank. :(
 
RustyBumper said:
I took advantage of the Goodwrench special and got the ceramics installed. So far, so good. Stops when I need it to, reduced dusting and no noise. I'll wait a couple of more weeks and give an update.

As a side note, I asked the parts guy how much the shocks cost for both the front and back of my Sierra. Fronts were $153/each and rears were $197/each. Looks like I'll be making several trips to the plasma bank. :(
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Luster said:
Whoa! Those are some high-dollar shocks!!!:scared:
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Priced out a set of Koni's for are cars yet bill?:scared:
 
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