My Vintage Experience...

I love the Charger, it looks so mean.



If I wasn't saving for a house, $1800 probably wouldnt seem like that big of a punch to the nuts for a wax.
 
[quote name='Vintage']Well the Vintage is not a very consumer friendly product as it can be time consuming to apply. Be sure to us a carnauba friendly wash and it should last a few months. I find myself applying a new layer atleast once a month so I really don't know how long it lasts. Still looks good after no applications for 3 months in the winter with salt here.

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IMO, it seems that it attracts dust. Maybe because of all the oils?
 
tabinha said:
I reading correctly you paid 1,800 for a car wax? Gee I truly hope you get your money's worth.
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tabinha said:
P.T Barmum would have a field day with the likes of stuff like Zymol. There truly is sucker born every day. It seems to me, like every minute.
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Wow, I can't believe it took four whole pages before a post like this was made. Don't you have better things to do than become the new autopia.org troll?
 
Wow I didnt think anyone would bother with vintage on yellow, I would see black, red, or dark blue, but yellow?
 
The car looks great!!!



Any idea what the costs are on refills and how does it work? I know it's free but wondering if there is a shipping and handling charge. Do you have to send back your container to be refilled? I've considered Vintage in my mobile business but I'd have to be waxing a lot of cars each month to make it worthwhile. It would be interesting to have an $1800 wax in my $1100 Nada valued truck. Leave the truck unlocked but carry the wax around my neck on a chain.
 
More, and I hope better, pictures.



About the yellow color and the Vintage... it really did darken the yellow alot and give it far more depth than what I've achieved with sealants and the few other carnaubas I've used.



Hope these pictures give a bit more idea of how good it does look...



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PhaRO said:
The car looks great!!!



Any idea what the costs are on refills and how does it work? I know it's free but wondering if there is a shipping and handling charge. Do you have to send back your container to be refilled? I've considered Vintage in my mobile business but I'd have to be waxing a lot of cars each month to make it worthwhile. It would be interesting to have an $1800 wax in my $1100 Nada valued truck. Leave the truck unlocked but carry the wax around my neck on a chain.
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Thanks!



You have to pay for shipping back to Zymol, but I don't know about return shipping.. Probably have to pay for that, too.
 
RCBuddha said:
Car looks good SuperBee! How did you find the HD cleanse? Easy to use? Difficult to use?
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Thank you! :)



A few posts back is a several paragraph rant on my HD-Cleans pains. OMG, I hate that stuff.
 
SuperBee364 said:
Thanks!



You have to pay for shipping back to Zymol, but I don't know about return shipping.. Probably have to pay for that, too.
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You pay to ship it to Zymol (I ship mine insured, come to about $45) and you pay for them to ship it back to you (around $25 for me). So it's about $70 round trip for me.



Everybody keeps focusing on $1800, but you also need to factor in shipping the heavy container to Zymol.
 
SuperBee364 said:
A few posts back is a several paragraph rant on my HD-Cleans pains. OMG, I hate that stuff.
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Interesting, I keep reading conflicting reports; some say its pretty easy, others say its a pain.



Question: Was the wax pretty easy to clean off your hands? Or is it still on there :soscared: :nervous2:
 
Vintage said:
I wondered about a Royale trade up also, I just hate to think what shipping would cost with that container that's twice as heavy. I also wondered if it really mattered what tint I got it since I would use it on several different colored cars. Or maybe I should just drop 14 G's on Solaris? Oh well, I'll cross that bridge when I get there.
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I find it it funny that you're considering dropping 14 grand for wax, yet you're worried about the cost of shipping. If I could afford something this expensive, shipping would be the last of my worries.
 
Vintage said:
You pay to ship it to Zymol (I ship mine insured, come to about $45) and you pay for them to ship it back to you (around $25 for me). So it's about $70 round trip for me.



Everybody keeps focusing on $1800, but you also need to factor in shipping the heavy container to Zymol.
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There wasn't really any refill information sent to me with the Vintage. Do you just call their customer service number to get a refill approved, then an RMA number or something? Not that I'm even close to needing a refill, just curious as to the process for when the time comes. Thank you very much for all the Zymol information you've given... answered a bunch of my questions.
 
lbls1 said:
Guys and ladies, Vintaaaaghhe and the other zymols are rare animals. I would advise against caking too many layers at one time. The best relationship with the color will happen with just one or two layers of the zymol. You will need to let the wax cure at least a day b4 applying anymore. I will tell you from experience, that zymol reacts best when it gets a little old (at least one week and up to 4 or more depending on how dry you can get the car to remain). When you S_L_O_W_L_Y accumulate 3-6 (six is my magic number) layers of any EGZ and of course Vintaaaaghe, you will have more depth of shine and reflectivity than you will know what to do with. You want to avoid any signs of hazing or greasinesss. A well developed zymol should shimmer like still water, and any sign of haze or grease (from hasty build-ups of wax layers) is not an acceptable alternative IMO. It should be deeeeep, cleeeeeen, and cleeeeeeaaaar.



If you allow yourself patience and distance between the wax cakes, you will find that you can go well beyond the recommended dosage (zymol says up to 5 b4 re-cleaning). You will need to occasionally service the paint with a wax friendly washing and a carnauba based but very mild QD that cleans as well as enhances.



Edit: Missed the yellow Charger pics. Very nice start!!! The wax somehow gets consumed, so don't worry about using too much. Apply Vintage exactly like they recommend....via the hand.
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Great information, thank you very much!!!



Any other options out there for a carnauba based QD? Field Glaze is so expensive, and after dropping that much coin on the Vintage, I'm looking to save a buck or two where I can. Besides, other than their high end stuff, I'm just not very impressed with the over all quality/price ratio of Zymol's products. I bought a few microfiber applicators from CMA a couple weeks back for like 2 buch each. Very high quality applicators that I expect to get many uses out of. I ordered two of Zymol's Pre Wax Applicators for $7(!!) each. They look like they'll probably fall apart in the clothes washer. I don't mind paying top dollar for top quality, but I refuse to pay for just the name.



There's no doubt that their high end waxes are very good, and most likely the best waxes on the market, but their other stuff just seems to be cheaply made, average quality stuff with high end price tags : /



Anyway, I'll end my rant now.. Thanks again for the help, and any suggestions you can give on carnauba based QD's would be great. i'd like to wash the car tomorrow, but I'm sure i'll need some carnauba based QD for the post drying water spot removal (necessary ritual here where the water is so hard).
 
RCBuddha said:
Interesting, I keep reading conflicting reports; some say its pretty easy, others say its a pain.



Question: Was the wax pretty easy to clean off your hands? Or is it still on there :soscared: :nervous2:
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My hands are still beading quite well. :)



Seriously, once you get done waxing, you can't even get your hands wet. I held my hands under running water for several minutes (just to show this to my wife), and when I took them out from under the faucet, my palms and fingers were completely dry. Pretty stange feeling. I ended up using some CW&G straight from the container and rubbing it around on my hands for a bit to get the wax off.
 
themightytimmah said:
Pinnacle Crystal Mist is a great carnauba QD... if you want to save even more coin, the Chemical Guys put out a great product for 20 bucks a gallon or so.
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Thanks for that! Think I'll go order a gallon of that stuff from CG.
 
BlackElantraGT said:
I find it it funny that you're considering dropping 14 grand for wax, yet you're worried about the cost of shipping. If I could afford something this expensive, shipping would be the last of my worries.
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I think that for most people the cost of a Zymol Estate wax is a business expense. They spend the bucks for the high end stuff, which then allows them to upsell their detailing services for a higher price. So it's just added in to the cost of doing business and gives them a good return on investment. Shipping charges, on the other hand, adds no value to their services; no return on investment. Trying to keep them low has gotta be pretty important if you're shipping the container back for refills on a frequent basis.
 
supe, there is a brand of soap called LAVA, you can buy two bars for like 99c cents at walmart. It is a bar soap with lots of pumice and grit embedded. I have yet to find anything it won't take off my hands quickly. you should try and find some and do an experiment on if it is strong enough to take off vintage.



Also about whether it uses more wax to apply with your hand, shouldn't a hand absorb less of the wax than an applicator while also warming up the wax and making it easier to apply a thin coat? I assume thats why they recommend hand application, It makes sense to me.
 
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