Mercedes versus B.M.W.
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Intermezzo said:
What?!
Slightly more enthusiastically? If the quick nimble handling on my wife's 330I is considered slightly more of an enthusiastic driving experience than the mushy, sluggish feel of my old 2001 CLK320, then I'm curious to know what kind of difference you consider as 'much more enthusiastic'. Wow, imagine that... and the CLK costed over 10K more than the 330I.
Much better safety? Check the current ratings on the IIHS website. BMW consistently rates higher than Mercedes.
If you're a 'driver' then get a bimmer. If you just want something that will get you from point A to B with the least amount of effort, then get in the Mercedes, Lexus, Infinity, Cadillac line.
Hehe, sorry Ali... All in good fun buddy..
You can't compare a W208 body to an E46 bmw, the W208 is based of the W202 which is from 1993!!! That is why it feels mushy etc.. it uses a recirculating ball steering. The new W209 will have all the latest technology like the new W203 c-class. If you check the crash test of the new C to the new E46 3-series, the C-class is much better.
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This is like asking, which is better Klasse of Zaino??
Yeah I was trying to find MB and BMW's that are in the same ballpark price range.
Hahaha bret...Saab.
If I had to choose from both companies any car, I would take a BMW M5. So I would favor the BMW line of cars, more fun to drive for us younger folk.
Once I break 50, MB here I come....
Yeah I was trying to find MB and BMW's that are in the same ballpark price range.
Hahaha bret...Saab.
If I had to choose from both companies any car, I would take a BMW M5. So I would favor the BMW line of cars, more fun to drive for us younger folk.
Once I break 50, MB here I come....
imported_Intermezzo
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Up to year 2000, the Mercedes E Class only received an Average rating with Poor dummy kinematics. BMW on the other hand have been selected Best Pick for every single car tested. 
Also, it's interesting how Mercedes Benz feels that it is OK to use 1993 technology on a 2001 car that costed me over 50K. Plus, I helped my boss in selecting his new car recently, (which ended up being the 745i). We test drove the S500, Lexus SC 430, and the Jaguar XJS. They were all good cars, but still felt very heavy and sluggish compared to the 745i. The 745i handled just as good as the 5-series.
Also, it's interesting how Mercedes Benz feels that it is OK to use 1993 technology on a 2001 car that costed me over 50K. Plus, I helped my boss in selecting his new car recently, (which ended up being the 745i). We test drove the S500, Lexus SC 430, and the Jaguar XJS. They were all good cars, but still felt very heavy and sluggish compared to the 745i.
The 745i handled just as good as the 5-series.I didn't know much about either BMW or MB before I got my Bimmer. All I knew is that hey were both very sought after names in cars and that I thought MB was a slightly better name. So, being the intelligent consumer that I am, I hit the reviews and car magazines and then went to both dealerships.
The reviews in every magazine I looked at all favored the BMW. This was over a year span of time. But even now, I still pick up the mags and look at the ratings... you know when they do a full review on 5 or 6 cars in the same class and review them in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 order? Well, The Bimmer still always comes out first!
I had to test for myself. It was mid-2000 and I was looking at the BMW 328i vs. MB CLK 320. I drove the CLK 320 first. I LOVED IT and was convinced that nothing could be better... till I drove the BMW 328i. Suddenly the CLK seemed heavy and clumsy. The BMW salesperson encouraged me to floor the car and take hard curves
I was more than happy to oblige. Taking hard turns in the CLK was... clumsy. I felt at one with the BMW. I fell in love with the BMW. I bought the BMW. I love the styling of both the Bimmer and the CLK but everytime I outperform a CLK on the highway effortlessly, it just reinforces my decision.
I've come to appreciate at this point that, both BMW and MB make fine automobiles. In my estimation, go for the Benz if you are a lover of the cushion ride and the relaxing weekend. But if you want performance excellence, the only choice is BMW. All the car companies are trying to make a "better 3 Series" - MB C320, Lexus IS300 even Cadallic. The ratings give them all accolades, but still prefer the Bimmer.
...anyhow, that's my 10 cents.
Ma BMW and MB both live on!!!:xyxthumbs
The reviews in every magazine I looked at all favored the BMW. This was over a year span of time. But even now, I still pick up the mags and look at the ratings... you know when they do a full review on 5 or 6 cars in the same class and review them in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 order? Well, The Bimmer still always comes out first!
I had to test for myself. It was mid-2000 and I was looking at the BMW 328i vs. MB CLK 320. I drove the CLK 320 first. I LOVED IT and was convinced that nothing could be better... till I drove the BMW 328i. Suddenly the CLK seemed heavy and clumsy. The BMW salesperson encouraged me to floor the car and take hard curves
I was more than happy to oblige. Taking hard turns in the CLK was... clumsy. I felt at one with the BMW. I fell in love with the BMW. I bought the BMW. I love the styling of both the Bimmer and the CLK but everytime I outperform a CLK on the highway effortlessly, it just reinforces my decision.I've come to appreciate at this point that, both BMW and MB make fine automobiles. In my estimation, go for the Benz if you are a lover of the cushion ride and the relaxing weekend. But if you want performance excellence, the only choice is BMW. All the car companies are trying to make a "better 3 Series" - MB C320, Lexus IS300 even Cadallic. The ratings give them all accolades, but still prefer the Bimmer.
...anyhow, that's my 10 cents.
Ma BMW and MB both live on!!!:xyxthumbs
Soory.. I will take my Cadillac! I want to be able to drive in anywh\eather, and still have 300 horses under my foot. Plus it is an American Luxury car. Sure BMWs and Benzs are nice cars, but now way will I ever drive one. MY car is made in Detroit, and I am sure proud of it!
But betwooen the two.. BMW...M6 for me or 850!
But betwooen the two.. BMW...M6 for me or 850!
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caddyman said:
sorry no caddilacs here, BMW or mercedes is the poll. Lets get back on track :xyxthumbs
This is like having a Ford vs. Chevy debate. There are always going to be people who like one brand over the other. I personally prefer BMWs, but I like to "drive" and not "ride". MB offers more luxury, more curb appeal, and more advanced technology. BMW is more concerned with the way the car drives then its luxury, features, and curb appeal. I have driven a fair share of both and I am always drawn back to BMW. They communicate much more to the driver when pushing the car. Both are superior in safety and build quality to any American car IMHO. You can not go wrong with either car, but please give me the keys to BMW M5
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Green Monster
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M5= Dailly driver
M3= Auto cross and SCCA racing
X5 = Winter car
Rightttttttt like I have the money for even one of those.
M3= Auto cross and SCCA racing
X5 = Winter car
Rightttttttt like I have the money for even one of those.
Speaking from experience, BMW's are amazing automobiles. I have found the best way to figure out which cars are quality cars, that stand the test of time.
Take a look at the cars you see on the road each day. I used to own a E30 (1989) 325i. The car was amazing. I sold it only a few months ago for a newer car, and had a very difficult time deciding whether or not I was going to part with her. I see old BMW's all over the place. I have not seen too many older MB's (not that they are not out there). Just some food for thought.
The car was almost 14 years old. I have driven '99 M3's, and 2002 330ci's. The cars are fantastic. I cannot speak on the MB's, but I do know that BMW's consistently get higher marks in magazines comparing MB's and BMW's. The 2002 M3 blew the doors off of the AMG CLK 55 (not sure if that is the right badging).
In any case, both are amazing automobile manufacturers. You can't go wrong with either. I just wanted to weigh in on this one.
Best regards.
Take a look at the cars you see on the road each day. I used to own a E30 (1989) 325i. The car was amazing. I sold it only a few months ago for a newer car, and had a very difficult time deciding whether or not I was going to part with her. I see old BMW's all over the place. I have not seen too many older MB's (not that they are not out there). Just some food for thought.
The car was almost 14 years old. I have driven '99 M3's, and 2002 330ci's. The cars are fantastic. I cannot speak on the MB's, but I do know that BMW's consistently get higher marks in magazines comparing MB's and BMW's. The 2002 M3 blew the doors off of the AMG CLK 55 (not sure if that is the right badging).
In any case, both are amazing automobile manufacturers. You can't go wrong with either. I just wanted to weigh in on this one.
Best regards.
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MarylandVW said:
I second that.
I got 150,000 miles on my 320i before it needed a clutch. My nephew is now driving it and it has over 225,000. As solid as a rock through 15 New England winters. Neighbor's MB did not fair as well.
Yeah BMW.
Longevity is very high on my list of important features. That is why I opted for a Lexus LS400 over both. It may not out perform a Bimmer but I have 4 others that forfill that need. :wavey
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MarylandVW said:
A couple months ago, MotorTrend did a head to head comparison between BMW's Motorsport cars and Mercedes' AMG cars. Despite the rather sizeable price disparities among the cars being tested head to head, the BMW's swept the Benzs.
My experience with reliability has been pretty limited, but I will say that my current 1 year old 330I has had no problems whatsoever, but my cousin's ML has been a completely different story.
Also, every person I know who owns a Mercedes has had trouble with the power windows. Sometimes when you roll the window down all the way, it doesn't go back up. What's interesting about this is that my parent's 1981 300E (with the diesel engine!) had the exact same problem!! After all these years, Mercedes hasn't been able to take care of this very simple problem!
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I have that same damn problem with my new MB on the driver side window. I never knew that was a widespread and ongoing malfunction.
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Both make good cars. I owned an old E28 which I bought at 50,000 miles and sold at 250,000 and was still going strong.
I like the ability of BMW to sell massive amounts of cars without any damage to their image or branding.
In terms of F1, I think that Mercedes would admit that they are down on power compared to BMW, at the moment.
Steven
I like the ability of BMW to sell massive amounts of cars without any damage to their image or branding.
In terms of F1, I think that Mercedes would admit that they are down on power compared to BMW, at the moment.
Steven
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Intermezzo said:
Well, I'll tell you this right now: MB and BMW have very different missions. In the test your refer to, they compared cars in different classes as well. AMG builds cars in a fashion that the typical MB customer will buy. AMG is only offered in automatics, M cars only in manual. That is pretty much all you need to know. The test was conducted in an odd fashion. They put the brand new X5 4.6is against the ML55 which came out a long time ago. What did BMW have when the ML55 came out? Nothing. How do you compare a M3 cab and a CLK55 cab. One is sports car the other is a luxury cruiser. Where was the C32 AMG? AMG's newest car, mysteriously missing.
Go look at the 2003 MB SL55 AMG, which proves that AMG is capable when MB takes off their leash. BMW doesn't have a car that can even come close to this. By comparison, AMG doesn't have as much sporting flair in any other of its cars than BMW M.
I could easily have bought a E46 M3 instead of the C32. Why did I buy the MB? It came down to my personal preference. If I wanted a sports car, the M3 to me is a terrible choice when the 911 and NSX are available. Yes, the M3 is $20k cheaper. Do you want Blitz wax or Souveran? I drove the M3, and boy is it fun. Is it the best daily driver? Hell no.
I did not want a full sports car, I wanted a sports sedan. I want to drive this car everyday in traffic and I want to talk on my hands free phone that is voice activated while doing so. I want to cruise comfortably in an understated looking machine, and only drive fast when I feel like it. I want the exhaust note to be deep, but not loud. I want four doors.
Basically, the difference between BMW and MB is purely what the needs of the driver is. MB makes their cars typically more classy and elegant. BMW is more sporty and "exciting". MB beats BMW in luxury hands down.
I've driven most of both lines for each company, here are my picks, winner in bold.
SL55 vs. Z8. SL55 is in Ferrari territory, so this is easy. Haven't driven either.
S500 vs. 745i (BMW has no car to match S55), S500 much better to me. Driven both.
E55 vs. M5, look for new E500. Rode in both.
C32 vs. M3, though in this case I am biased. These cars are SO DIFFERENT, they don't deserve to be compared. Q-car vs. track car. Though on the drag strip, if any M3 owner thinks they can shift faster than my automatic, please let's race. Driven both.
SLK32 vs. M roadster Both cars are very old in technology and chassis. The M is a very raw car. SLK has hard top which no one can touch.
ML55 vs. X5 4.6is The X5 is so much newer, it had to win.
BTW, my car has had no problems. Ask your BMW dealer how common M3 engine failures have been. Ask any MB ML owner how bad their car has been.
I was so close to getting a M3, I went as far as working on a deal for a car on the lot!