Long lasting protective wax for outdoor parked car?

I'll be ordering a 476 tin can very soon. Can't wait to see the water beading (I'm a beadaholic :))! My cars are parked outside 24/7, so I think it's worth it to invest in a good wax. Plus, 14.50 for the 476 will last you at least 20-30 applications on a midsize car!



dmx, the 476 is just the paste version of the 845. 476 has slightly more carnauba content, and will last you 1-2 extra months over the 845. So, I would think that 476 over 845 is essentially 2 layers of 845. 2 layers is not bad to do with the Collinite, will get you even more protection. Any more than 2 layers is probably overkill.
 
dmxsoulja3 said:
Yeah UPP works out pretty good for me if you keep up with your washing.....I have a question for you collinite users...can you lay down the 845 liquid with a pc and top it by hand with the 476S ? Or are we talking serious over kill? What products do you use before it?
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why not just put 2 coats of 476 on 1 hr apart...you can use a plastic knife to spread on a pc pad



i asked collinite about layers and they said 2 coats 1 hr apart should be fine
 
I wasn't aware they were basically the same products, I will definitely order some and do two coats and hour or two apart...What products do you guys use leading up to it? Something to cut your swirls..maybe SSr2 or something, then AIO then collinite or are you guys going straight from polish to collinite...how picky is this stuff? I'm 24/7 in an apartment complex and the buildings are parallel to each other so wind gusts come through there and pick up sand and stuff and throws it around so this definitely would help me out.
 
Yeah I use Collinite alot and it continues to impress. I'm goin on 3.5 months on a non-garaged daily driver and it still looks good. One thing about it though, is that on medium-to heavily soiled paint there will not be super-tight beads, but that changes once the car is cleaned. Top it with Duragloss AW and you will have supurb wetness and pop.
 
VroomVroom said:
I haven't used Klasse or Collinite, but am constantly amazed at the durability of UPP. My vehicles are outside 24/7, and granted the climate is fairly mild, but this stuff just lasts.
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I'm surprised about this since UPP is one of the few sealants noted for its lack of durability by many. I happen to like UPP, but more because it's just super-slick rather than for protection. Perhaps they've changed their formula since I bought my bottle.
 
My take on UPP mirrors that of Pennypacker. I've been using it for years (both v2.0 and the current, AFAIK, v3.0) on the S8 and while I like the slickness, look, and ease-of-use, the slickness drops off rather quickly and to me that signals some kind of durability issue. I know it's still there when the slickness decreases, but it no longer has one of the primary properties I buy it for so I have to refresh it quite frequently.



dmxsoulja3 said:
I wasn't aware [476S and 845] were basically the same products, I will definitely order some and do two coats and hour or two apart...What products do you guys use leading up to it? Something to cut your swirls..maybe SSr2 or something, then AIO then collinite or are you guys going straight from polish to collinite...how picky is this stuff?
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I go straight from polish to Collinite with no problems (in fact, I only use AIO when I'm gonna use KSG).



What I *really* like is a polish/etc. with some fillers or wax in it, something like one of the1Z polishes. I put the Collinite over stuff like that most of the time.



I dunno about 476S and 845 being all that similar. I read somewhere that the 845 contains "resins" and I've never heard that about 476S. They don't act or look very similar, not like using the paste and liquid versions of something like Meg's #26 where you can spot the similarity.



I never tried layering those waxes that quickly, but I do build up layers of 476S and yeah, I'm convinced that it *does* layer. I was unsuccessful when I tried to get it to do the "like product solvent action" thing; it seems that once it's dried/cured/whatever it stays put.
 
Accumulator said:
I myself don't care for the P21S but yeah, many people really like the stuff.



But leaving my hair-splitting personal preferences aside, P21S durability won't come close to Collinite; I wouldn't go with P21s for an outside 24/7 car, it just doesn't last that long. It *will* last a little longer if you let it set up before you buff it off instead of using the W-O-W-O method that you're "supposed" to use. Just put it on nice and thin so it buffs off easily. But you'll get literally *months* more out of Collinite 476S.
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I've had no problems with p21s in terms of durability. My daily driver is outside all the time, and that wax holds up brilliantly. It does require layering, however.



I've heard good things about collinite, and perhaps one day I may try it. I prefer pure carnaubas, however, so I'll see if collinite offers a non-cleaner carnauba wax. If they do I'll give them a try.
 
Just ordered Collinite 476 from mactecllc.com yesterday. As soon as I get it, I'll be waxing my cars and reporting back. Maybe I'll take a few pictures of the beading too.
 
Jeff Werkstatt's Prime Acrylic....An AIO, very durable. For even more durability all you need to do is apply some Acrylic Jett Trigger over it, which is a spray and wipe
 
lbls1- You and I have discussed waxes enough that I think you know I wasn't :argue or anything, and I suspect I neglect my cars dreadfully compared to you, which might explain our durability differences. Heh heh, ScottWax gets a zillion times better durability than I do out of Souveran, and he's down in the Texas heat!



Given those prior discussions of ours, I'd be interested to hear what you think about the Collinite. I'm not saying its a beauty wax or anything, but, well, I'd just like to hear what you think.



Their non-cleaner carnaubas (not that I know for sure what else might be in them) include 476S paste and 915 Marque de Elegance. You might enjoy a conversation with the guys at COLLINITE, they're friendly and like to talk waxes.
 
My vote goes for Collinite 476S for a durable wax. It is also reasonably priced and fairly easy to work with if you apply it thiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. I apply it to the entire car and then come back and wipe off. If you apply it thin it wipes off with ease. I applied it last November and it didn't show signs of getting week until late April. I thought that, that was pretty good for a North Dakota winter. Also I was very happy with the "look" it had on our cars. For comparison sake, Megs #16 (which is a wax I like very much) is gone in half that time. I hope this helps. :)
 
ProV1 said:
what's a decently priced, long lasting wax that'll protect against the elements for a car that's parked outside 24/7? thanks!!
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/ducks for cover :D
 
Accumulator said:
lbls1- You and I have discussed waxes enough that I think you know I wasn't :argue or anything, and I suspect I neglect my cars dreadfully compared to you, which might explain our durability differences. Heh heh, ScottWax gets a zillion times better durability than I do out of Souveran, and he's down in the Texas heat!



Given those prior discussions of ours, I'd be interested to hear what you think about the Collinite. I'm not saying its a beauty wax or anything, but, well, I'd just like to hear what you think.



Their non-cleaner carnaubas (not that I know for sure what else might be in them) include 476S paste and 915 Marque de Elegance. You might enjoy a conversation with the guys at COLLINITE, they're friendly and like to talk waxes.
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Accumulator............cmon get the lead out!! lol!!!! Its no sweat!!! I expect nothing but an honest opinion, good or bad. I was just describing my experience with p21s, not necessarily not taking your word seriously...it is possible that it did disappoint you. I can believe that (besides...........you and I know which wax is my favorite anysways.....oh boy!).



But to your credit, I have not tried collinite, and I would be delighted in getting a new wax that could even outlast p21s. My daily driver will need all of the protection it can get!!!



PS.....And speaking of favorites.......when are we taking a trip on the wild side...hmmmm ?? lol!!
 
lbls1 said:
..And speaking of favorites.......when are we taking a trip on the wild side...hmmmm ?? lol!!
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I still gotta figure out if it'd be worth it on vehicles I can't get marring-free (XJS and/or RX-7). Seems like a waste on imperfectly prepped stuff :confused: No way am I gonna use anything but *durable* stuff on the drivers :D Weird how my drivers have better paint than the garage-queens :o but hey, they're a lot newer.



The RX-7 is in indefinite limbo while I work on the M3, but the Jag is off getting some paintwork done as the first step in getting *it* back on the road. So hope springs eternal but I have months of waiting for the paint to cure (during which time I can contemplate hand-waxing the hideous-condition, but mostly original, lacquer).



Hand-waxing the RX-7 shouldn't be too bad, but what about its imperfect paint? No, I'm not gonna risk opening a can of worms by trying to do major correction on the thin, original ss metallic ;) Twenty-some years of being washed (and apparently QDed :rolleyes: ) by others have taken their toll.
 
Accumulator, I would just take your pic on any of those keepers you've mentioned, and do a good hand prep with a non abrasive polish. If the RX7 or the others can even take a buffer with a non abrasive cleaner or polish, then it would be worth your while to do that, and then to use one of the EGZ's like we talked about earlier. Their great on prepped surfaces, but like I mentioned before, they were made to work with basic hand prepped surfaces. I would'nt go all out with the series of abrasives on the paint if you feel its an issue, because I feel you should be ok with the hand prep and Zymol (sorry folks...not adding to the durability conversation).



You could also try a sampling on a small part, like a trunk lid, just to see what it feels like and whether you want to venture further!
 
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