Is Klasse AIO overpriced, over the hill?

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CharlesW

The Rainmaker
A recent comment about Klasse being overpriced got me to thinking a little.

Is Klasse overpriced in today's market?
What other products do you use that you feel are a better buy.
What other products do you use that you feel do a better job?

Charles
 
I think its a pricey product and there are many products tht are good and cheper but I know for myself that Klasse is worth the money. I have yet to find a product that gives me the same results. I would like to see a drop in price, but hey that wont happen. Hense why I stock up whenever there is a sale on it.
So I would say it is expensive but there isnt a product for me that is as good.
 
Klasse certainly isn't cheap, but it isn't priced that far out of line with other premium product lines. I used AIO and SG for a few years. If durability was my primary concern, I'd probably still be using the combo. However, I've moved on to other products offering greater ease of use as well as more subjectively pleasing (to me) aesthetics.

There are dozens of combos that I'd use in lieu of AIO/SG. For polishes: I'd look to Poorboy's (Pro Polish, SSRs, PwC, PwS), Optimum (Polish; will be trying Poli-Seal later this week), Menzerna (FPII), and Clearkote (VM). For LSP's, there are lots of sealants that are less finicky than SG. I personally like EX-P and EX, but there are many alternatives depending upon vehicle color and your choice of prep products. I also like a nice carnauba wax for the top coat. Some of my current favorites would be the Natty's twins, Souveran, Liquid Souveran, Signature, Carnauba Moose, and Trade Secret.
 
I am not sure if it is overpriced or...if I prefer to speak to the manufacturer. The people that I order from, have products equal to or better than AIO, speak to me personally. I like having a connection with the manufacturer/owner.

I also have to agree with awd330(Marge) that there are a whole host of products from which to choose from that give good protection and shine.
 
I thouht KAIO was a cleaner wich left a light protection behind that would need a LSP to promote durabiltiy?

Would it be inappropiate to ask what products are of an equal?
 
cwcad said:
The people that I order from, have products equal to or better than AIO, speak to me personally.
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Thanks for the offer, but the last thing I need right now is more products to store over the winter. :)
Actually, I probably have enough Klasse AIO on hand to last me several years.

Charles
 
CharlesW said:
A recent comment about Klasse being overpriced got me to thinking a little.

Is Klasse overpriced in today's market?
What other products do you use that you feel are a better buy.
What other products do you use that you feel do a better job?

Charles
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Klasse is a good value in my book. I don't care for the dispenser, so I keep a 2oz squeeze bottle on hand for polishing duties, and it last a LONG time.

I've had Klasse AIO on hand for several years, which I can't say about a lot of products.
 
joe.p said:
I thouht KAIO was a cleaner wich left a light protection behind that would need a LSP to promote durabiltiy?

Would it be inappropiate to ask what products are of an equal?
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My feeling with Klasse AIO are the same as yours.

It doesn't seem to me that it woud be inappropiate to ask about others.

Poorboy's PwC would be the only thing I have used to any extent and it seems to be comparable for less money.
Meguiar's Color-X is another product that doesn't get much credit, but seems to do a decent job as an all in one product.

Charles
 
mgm2003 said:
Klasse is a good value in my book. I don't care for the dispenser, so I keep a 2oz squeeze bottle on hand for polishing duties, and it last a LONG time.

I've had Klasse AIO on hand for several years, which I can't say about a lot of products.
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While I had no problem with the orignal container, I did read that they were quite fragile and dropping it would sometimes shatter it.
I now keep several products in 3 oz. fliptop containers that I buy in the cosmetics section of Wal*Mart.
I use a cheap carpenters apron when doing a full detail and several of the small containers will fit in the pockets of the apron.

Charles
 
Like calgarydetail said, I stock up when it's on sale. People just love when I use the K-twins on there cars. they love that candy coated look.
 
CharlesW said:
Thanks for the offer, but the last thing I need right now is more products to store over the winter. :)
Actually, I probably have enough Klasse AIO on hand to last me several years.

Charles
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Although I was not offering, Charles you know that I would send you any product that I have. What I was trying to say is that the products that I now order are from manufacturers that I can speak directly to. i.e. Steve at Poorboy's.
 
joe.p said:
I thouht KAIO was a cleaner wich left a light protection behind that would need a LSP to promote durabiltiy?

Would it be inappropiate to ask what products are of an equal?
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The product that I use that I think does the same thing but has more corrective properties is Poorboy's ProPolish, JoeP.
 
cwcad said:
Although I was not offering, Charles you know that I would send you any product that I have. What I was trying to say is that the products that I now order are from manufacturers that I can speak directly to. i.e. Steve at Poorboy's.
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Actually, I didn't take it that you were offering products. I figured it was information and I didn't even want to hear about aything new to buy for a while. :)

Charles
 
cwcad said:
The product that I use that I think does the same thing but has more corrective properties is Poorboy's ProPolish, JoeP.
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While I am a fan of Klasse AIO, I do think that both Poorboy's Pro Polish and Poorboy's Polish With Carnauba do a better job of cleaning.
I don't think the Pro Polish leaves any protection behind. I think it is a cleaner/polish only.
The PwC does leave some protection behind, but since it appears to be carnauba, I was always hesitant to use the PwC under a sealant. It does work great under S100 or P21S Carnauba.
The new Polish With Sealant should be a winner when Steve feels it is ready to bring to market.

Charles
 
CharlesW said:
Actually, I didn't take it that you were offering products. I figured it was information and I didn't even want to hear about aything new to buy for a while. :)

Charles
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Mea culpa, Charles.

I do know the feeling about not wanting to purchase any new products though.
 
first i would lile to say welcome back CWCAD.I have so many products i find myself using a product a few times then move on for the sake of trying another one..I have used PBs PWC many times also pro polish....This winter its Zaino..
 
Klasse AIO I think is a great product for those that are looking for a fast shine by hand that requires no real experience. For the weekend guy that cleans or what he calls details his ride a few times a year this is the line-up IMO

Over priced that's a matter of perception if it satisfies the needs of the users then its not.

My personal experience is that I found like others that it needed a LSP. The depth in the paint wasn't really there either. I did like that it required no drying time wipe on wipe off and for some areas on the car that was a plus.

I would not buy it again, sort of a been there done that for me....I've found that PB P-w-C has all the same qualities gives me the depth in shine and can act in many ways as a LSP.

However there are followers of this line much like Zaino that swear by it as the best there is..I have to wonder if price has something to do with that.
 
wannafbody said:
with the great cleaning ability of ZPC and the myriad of true sealants IMO AIO is a dinosaur
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But you are not comparing apples to apples.

AIO is a chemical cleaner were as ZPC features and I quote:
Featuring the world's first (and only) true, self-dissolving, fused tri-particulate, diminishing abrasive system,
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2 completely different animals.

AIO also offers (even minimally) protection, where I don't see that listed on Zaino's web site.

"J"
 
One other thing that people should be aware of.
From the Zaino site:
NOTE: Zaino Z-PC Fusion IS ABRASIVE and should only be used when necessary. Z-PC Fusion is not intended for frequent use.
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The Z-PC Fusion should be used for its intended purpose which seems to be paint cleansing And swirl removal.
Klasse AIO can be used frequently for its intended purpose, but any swirl removal it does will most likely be from the abrasiveness of the pad/applicator, not the product itself.
Like "J" said, two different products for two different uses.
One thing they do share is a price that is not particularly low. :)

Charles
 
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